misha tia Wrote:Conveniently, I believe she is someone that can had get this kind of attention and defend herself well.
Alas, I can hardly type right now but will do my best!
As I see it, there are two points re the specific "teh pwn" post.
First of all - is it acceptable? Second of all - was it raised in an acceptable manner? (There is also a wider issue regarding rules in general.)
Taking the second point first, while I believe there was no intent to annoy anyone, I do think it is inappropriate for a standard member to tell any other member "you have broken a rule, don't" in a public thread. Discussing the matter in private is appropriate, alterting a member or members of the staff team is appropriate, discussing it here as an issue to be looked at is appropriate - but IMO a member telling another member "this is against the rules, don't do it" is completely inappropriate.
This forum is "owned" by a few people who picked mods of wildly differing opinions and backgrounds to help enforce the rules. That - and discussion between us - is a far cry from one individual deciding on their own what is not acceptable behaviour. So that's the second point.
Back to the first point - is "teh pwn" even acceptable? The rule specifically states that excessive use of slang terms and chat speak is wrong. I don't see how one use of a slang term (even if it is such) can possibly be excessive. IMO (in my opinion - and IMO acceptable because IMO is as rooted in internet communication as "rofl" is) there is a massive difference between someone whose posts are full of typos, chatspeak, and lack of grammar and someone who usually posts near-perfect spelling and grammar using the term "teh pwn". Is it excessive if some idiot who can't make himself understood through all the acronyms uses it? Maybe. Is it excessive if someone with nearr-perfect grammar and spelling uses it once, for effect, in a specific context which makes perfect sense? I don't think so.
If you take the "meaning of the law" approach on the other hand, that this rule is to aid communication - I still don't think there is a problem. If a person who is not fluent in English does not understand the term, copy/pasting and asking Google will immediately yield very useful results. Unlike SMS-style abreviations, I simply do not see how use of a well known and used term as "teh pwn" would in any way harm the understanding of someone speaking a second language.
This leaves the issue of the rules themselves.
I have heard more than one person say that the OKP rules themselves are flawed or too vague. Personally I am in favour of more vague rules (IMO it lessens abuse as there are fewer, if any, loopholes) but what gets me is this . . . despite talk from people of standards falling etc, no-one actually contacts the staff to give examples
. I can't speak for everyone
else but I will not bite - worst I will do is make the other staff aware that a poster might be being inappropriate. Without actually letting the staff know of problems, it could be we don't notice the post or it could be we've reviewed it and discussed it and decided it was okay (or that someone has given a warning).
Saying "I don't like the rules" doesn't help. Saying "People keep breaking these" doesn't help. What would help is contacting the staff member of your choice and alerting them to a specific comment and that you have a problem with it. Every time the membership has been asked to do this, they haven't bothered. If it really is a problem for some people though, then the staff are easy to find.
Thanks for your time.