2008-05-21, 22:48
I’m opening this topic to reroute from a topic I have inadvertently highjacked. I’m posting here (Feedback) because of the basic reasons I started the diversion on the other topic, which are two fold.
The first is my primary concern. As most of the long-term members have notice in the first few months here was an increase in rule breaking (since this seemed to have been one of the roots of an explosive situation that has since cool). Fortunately, the trend has plateau out. However punishment and repercussions for misdemeanors seem infrequent. I realized that at times the administrators and moderators have been over whelmed by these infractions, and being not only a human but small staff there are limits to what can be done. Yet we are now in a calm and relaxed period (which I would like to see continue), and with the drop in rule breaking there also seems to be less enforcement. Also mod.’s and admin.’s, who are supposed to be the example, are some of the one breaking rule. Please try not to see that statement of incompetents or anything else so harsh. For the most part, they have been driven, caring leaders. But as I have said they are human and mistakes will be made. I say this in hopes to point out an area for improvement. I feel that with repercussions and more focused leaders that the members (and board in whole) will be come more conscience of their activities. For my part I intend to not just be more conscience but help point out things that I feel are infractions and the reasons why. If I get out of line I expected to be corrected assuming I have not already caught myself.
In a way, that brings me to the second concern, the ambiguity of the rules. My interpretation will vary from someone else’s. I would love to here other interpretations and perhaps addendums be added for future clarity. I realize this will not be an easy thing to do but I felt at a fairly board friendly period like this was going to be the best time for it.
My hope for this topic this that it can be productive. Also do not intend to victimize anyone, but for that their post can be used as example to achieve better understanding and compliance.
With all that said, I show the example that got this started. Archer was in one way targeted. She just happened to be someone I recent said something about the complaint I start with to. Conveniently, I believe she is someone that can had get this kind of attention and defend herself well. (There are some posts left out but they seemed irrelevant to this point. To read the entire discussion please see <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://otherkinphenomena.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10">viewtopic.php?f=25&t=528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10</a><!-- l -->)
So if you’ve read this far, kudos (said sincerely) and I like you reiterate my point before responding to Archer. I believe more enforcement and clearer rules are needed.
Archer/Momo: The point of this rule to my understanding was created to make communication easier for the community. If you remember the last time I made this request I brought up the point of non-native speakers. I see no reason why they should not only have a window open for translating unknown words but one for chat/slang/any other shortened reference. The first window can’t be helped, but the need for the second seems inconsiderate.
Archer, sorry for mixing up your title. I’ll admit that was clearly a mistake on my part, but if mistakes have to be made at least make it flattering <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s -->.
The first is my primary concern. As most of the long-term members have notice in the first few months here was an increase in rule breaking (since this seemed to have been one of the roots of an explosive situation that has since cool). Fortunately, the trend has plateau out. However punishment and repercussions for misdemeanors seem infrequent. I realized that at times the administrators and moderators have been over whelmed by these infractions, and being not only a human but small staff there are limits to what can be done. Yet we are now in a calm and relaxed period (which I would like to see continue), and with the drop in rule breaking there also seems to be less enforcement. Also mod.’s and admin.’s, who are supposed to be the example, are some of the one breaking rule. Please try not to see that statement of incompetents or anything else so harsh. For the most part, they have been driven, caring leaders. But as I have said they are human and mistakes will be made. I say this in hopes to point out an area for improvement. I feel that with repercussions and more focused leaders that the members (and board in whole) will be come more conscience of their activities. For my part I intend to not just be more conscience but help point out things that I feel are infractions and the reasons why. If I get out of line I expected to be corrected assuming I have not already caught myself.
In a way, that brings me to the second concern, the ambiguity of the rules. My interpretation will vary from someone else’s. I would love to here other interpretations and perhaps addendums be added for future clarity. I realize this will not be an easy thing to do but I felt at a fairly board friendly period like this was going to be the best time for it.
My hope for this topic this that it can be productive. Also do not intend to victimize anyone, but for that their post can be used as example to achieve better understanding and compliance.
With all that said, I show the example that got this started. Archer was in one way targeted. She just happened to be someone I recent said something about the complaint I start with to. Conveniently, I believe she is someone that can had get this kind of attention and defend herself well. (There are some posts left out but they seemed irrelevant to this point. To read the entire discussion please see <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://otherkinphenomena.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10">viewtopic.php?f=25&t=528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10</a><!-- l -->)
Archer Wrote:New York is teh pwn.
misha tia Wrote:Archer please refrain for using abbreviations.
Deros Wrote:That wasn't abbreviations. "Teh pwn" is game-speak, or as I like to call it: "idiot". (honestly, it's a lot easier to type "New York owns"; be lazy like a gamer should be and spare your typing energy)
^Not specifically directed at Archer, btw
^That wasn't abbr. either. Acronym
^That was abbreviated
Archer Wrote:misha tia Wrote:Archer Wrote:New York is teh pwn.Archer please refrain for using abbreviations.
1) No.
2) I love it when completely random people hit me with non sequiteurs!
misha tia Wrote:The rules.
kahoku Wrote:RulesAs an administrator you should know better.
2. Language shall remain professional at all times, excessive vulgarities or slang which will include slurs and chat language is prohibited. We are a PG/PG13 board.
momo Wrote:That refers to 'excessive' language, like chatspeak in every one of your posts or profanity in every sentence. The very occasional bit we let slip, because the user isn't doing it all of the time.
Archer Wrote:misha tia Wrote:The rules.
kahoku Wrote:Rules
2. Language shall remain professional at all times, excessive vulgarities or slang which will include slurs and chat language is prohibited. We are a PG/PG13 board.
How is "teh pwn", which is closest to slang (not chat language any more, as it is part of the verbalisations of the educated middle classes in real life (easily shown by a look through some modern corpora if you want to check it out)) out of the above, excessive?
Quote:As an administrator you should know better.
I'm a moderator, but thanks anyway <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
So if you’ve read this far, kudos (said sincerely) and I like you reiterate my point before responding to Archer. I believe more enforcement and clearer rules are needed.
Archer/Momo: The point of this rule to my understanding was created to make communication easier for the community. If you remember the last time I made this request I brought up the point of non-native speakers. I see no reason why they should not only have a window open for translating unknown words but one for chat/slang/any other shortened reference. The first window can’t be helped, but the need for the second seems inconsiderate.
Archer, sorry for mixing up your title. I’ll admit that was clearly a mistake on my part, but if mistakes have to be made at least make it flattering <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s -->.