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Seric Phriam Wrote:@ava
Of course not. XD Just try to come up with something that can't be put in one of those four categories. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

Seric, there shouldn't be anything valid that can't fit into those four categories, because each potential scenario can be answered in a binary fashion and there's already an answer that accounts for each. This isn't a matter of faith, it's a matter of logic, and the question was (intentionally?) structured in a way to make it such.


If you really want me to suppose an "answer" outside of those four conditions, then I will, though note this no longer strictly follows my own beliefs.


Jesus did not exist on this material plane, while the book itself was written in another and somehow managed to transfer. Therefore, while one could say that Jesus did not "exist" (thus ruling out the possibilities of him being a Liar, Lunatic, or Lord), the book *itself* -- and by extension, the story -- could be 100% accurate towards those it applied.


Alternatively, I could simply declare myself a "Christian" and, by extension, use my own interpretation of the Christian story to supplant that Jesus never existed as a physical phenomenon, precluding him from being anything. Since I 100% believe my own version of the Christian story, one could say that it is not a "Legend", either.
I know I'll think of something better lol, but for now my rather boring contributions are:

Carpenter
Jew
Brother
Friend
Son ( of Mary & by default, Joseph )
Cousin
Citizen ( I assume Jews were citizens )
Rebel
Healer
Pacifist
Teacher

And I'm glad they don't have to start with L lol!!
@Rain

Well yeah, that'd be why it's a challenge. My pastor has never had someone come up with something fits outside those things. You are welcome to come up with any scenario possible, even if it is outside your beliefs.

"Jesus did not exist on this material plane, while the book itself was written in another and somehow managed to transfer. Therefore, while one could say that Jesus did not "exist" (thus ruling out the possibilities of him being a Liar, Lunatic, or Lord), the book *itself* -- and by extension, the story -- could be 100% accurate towards those it applied."

I don't really understand what you mean here.

"Alternatively, I could simply declare myself a "Christian" and, by extension, use my own interpretation of the Christian story to supplant that Jesus never existed as a physical phenomenon, precluding him from being anything. Since I 100% believe my own version of the Christian story, one could say that it is not a "Legend", either."

Not sure what you mean here, either. If you say he never existed, then he would be a legend.

@ava

That's a good list. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->
Quote:"Jesus did not exist on this material plane, while the book itself was written in another and somehow managed to transfer. Therefore, while one could say that Jesus did not "exist" (thus ruling out the possibilities of him being a Liar, Lunatic, or Lord), the book *itself* -- and by extension, the story -- could be 100% accurate towards those it applied."

To be a "Legend", by your definition, I have to view the Christain Story as being untrue / unbelievable. The scenario I presented is where, in one dimension (basically), the events transpired as written and in another, no such events occurred. The book itself managed to cross dimensions and started the Christian Story in the dimension where no events occurred. To that end, you could view the book and story as being historically accurate even if said history never occurred in your plane of reality, allowing for a scenario in which the book/story is 100% factual but Jesus did not actually exist.

Quote:Alternatively, I could simply declare myself a "Christian" and, by extension, use my own interpretation of the Christian story to supplant that Jesus never existed as a physical phenomenon, precluding him from being anything. Since I 100% believe my own version of the Christian story, one could say that it is not a "Legend", either.

What is the Christian Story, exactly? At its core, it is nothing more than an interpretation of events. I can just declare myself a Christian and, through my own interpretation, create an altered "Christian Story" in which Jesus never actually existed. While it may not be the most agreed upon interpretation, it would remain a "Christian Story" nonetheless, primarily because it was created by a self-determined Christian (the "story", as determined by a "Christian").

The first uses a flexible determination of "truth" as well as using your definitions in a strict, literal sense. The second uses a flexible definition of the phrase "Christian Story".
@Rain

That really doesn't make sense... but I know someone who can reply to that.
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