hi im new (duh)

like it says up top.

well where to get started i guess here would be good, well first off i'm not entirely sure i am a demon otherkin i identify with them alot and it just kind of feels right being labeled that, i've never felt like a normal person my whole life as far back as i remember 4-5 years old, i've never thought of what happens to me in this body as actually HAPPENING to me but rather im just watching it like a movie like it's something that will come and go quickly, from what i've read so far i've been going through my "awakening" for about 3 years now if my understanding of its right, my personality has been changing bit by bit i've come to start hurting people who are ignorant and unwilling to learn, my body has lately seemed much bigger than it actually is and i've started to feel thing's growing out where my shoulder blades are not wings these are shorter almost like spike's that stick up and out, i've always been anti-social except with a few amount of people i only have 3 "friends" despite many people trying to get close to me, i laugh when i'm in pain i find it very amusing like a joke to me, i've had one memory come to me if you wanna cal it that more a deeply inset picture but it defintly stirs something inside me , a statue laid on wet freshly dug earth of an extemely beautiful woman with her hands crossed over her chest with brown vines encasing her growing out from the statue and around when i think of it i feel something inside me ancient and old and understanding.

if theres anyone who might have some feedback on this it is well appreciated.

sorry about the lack of grammar.

Yo and welcome to OKP.

I don't know how much you've read about kin so far, so I'm gonna tell you this.
"Demon" as a kintype is almost meaningless a term at the moment as there are at least half a dozen vastly different and unrelated "ideas" of what the word means.
So, what do you mean when you say demon?
and, What makes you think that's the right term?

thanks for the welcome.

By demon i mean an entity of very dark energy not evil like the judeo-christians say but more like just a dark oppresive form of energy that has a body that exists somewhere on the astral.

Like i said before it just feels right i've looked at myself for a long time now and from what ive read (a few of them on this site) and ive compared it to how ive acted and felt throughout my life (not just this other types of otherkin and even mental diseases too) or i could be insane i have'nt completely ruled that out yet.

sorry if this does'nt help much it's hard to explain.

Welcome <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> First off a request: Please use capitalization and punctuation to make your posts easier to read and understand. From your interpretation of what a demon is to you, it sounds a bit more like a shadow. I'd recommend checking out Archer's articles on the subject. You can find them in the articles section on this site.

Sorry about the punctuation i skipped alot of school and english class was never fun, but i'll try my best.

It sounds plausible but my "aura" (so i have been told) is not a black hole but rather just dark, a glowing dark that can be seen quite clearly, this is one of the reasons why I first started to research Otherkin's. And i have never felt ummmm how can i say this "blobby" i geuss, I always had a definite form arms legs the whole shebang and I have never felt it shift like it was malleable or anything like that.

Also i don't know if this has anything to do with it but i have always had a very easy time summoning\invoking\communicating with goetics and i have grown quite close to one in paticular, just thought this might be important im probably wrong though <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> .

grbree Wrote:thanks for the welcome.

By demon i mean an entity of very dark energy not evil like the judeo-christians say but more like just a dark oppresive form of energy that has a body that exists somewhere on the astral.

That's also a definition of shadowkin.
In general, when the word "demon" is used on an otherkin forum, it means an entity of chaotic energy.

I fall between the two.

Anyway, welcome to the forum!

Thanks for the welcome skorpio and you too Seraphyna since i forgot thank you in my last post.

Now that was just a very vague definition of a demon to me, it could take weeks for me to fully describe what they are, but seeing as how it's a confusing term ill go more in-depth.
A demon to me is an entity of extreme oldness and intelligence (the ones i have met so far anyway), the first and foremost thing to a demon is respect they show it to you they expect it in turn. What belongs to them is so much theirs it's almost a part of them so dis-respecting or harming what belongs to them is like an attack on themselves, they can fly off the handle sometimes and seem very scary and evil to some but as i have said before they are not evil in fact i have met more kind beings of this nature than i have met humans. They also have a big fascination with pain wich is something i can understand seeing as how they have never experienced it them selves, it's funny seeing as how pain has nothing to do with getting closer to death it reminds me of a joke.

Anyway i hope that helped some im not very good at expressing what i mean through writing.

P.S sorry abut the grammar once again but no spell check is wanting to work for me.

Hello and welcome to OKP, shadowy demony person.

As others have said, "demon" is a very wide term that can be used for anything from a non-corporeal scary entity, to a being from Christian mythology (or rather, from the pop culture version of that mythology), to assorted scary-looking creatures from other paradigms, to any creature that looks big and has horns . . . and there's no reason why any of those entities would be related to one another. So, like others in this thread, I don't much like to use it.

"Shadow" is a relatively new term. It's been used in the context of dark energy being for maybe 10 years, "shadow person" probably longer, but again without a whole lot of variations. I have no attachment to the term so I'm happy for alternatives - another OKPer has used "skianthrope" (which means shadow-person in the same way as lycanthrope means wolf-person, I think) which I also like a lot.

Anyway, from your description, if you were asking what I thought you were, I'd vote for probably shadow. Dissociation (feeling like your life is a movie you're watching, rather than reality) is fairly common in non-physical otherkin (energy beings and the like). A definite humanoid body with extra appendages (in your case shoulder spikes/stubs, in my case spines and tail) is very common with shadows. (Why is a whole other question!) Interestingly, while there are some shadows who take the shape of a sort of vague nebulous cloud, and some shadows who have very "solid" forms, there seem to be very few who shapeshift or drift from one form to another. (Again, I could speculate wildly about why this is so.)

I'm sensing a bit of ego in you too <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s --> This is all circumstantial evidence but in my experience shadows are rather prone to thinking we're big cheeses, not to be messed with, etc. The sensation of getting a glimpse of an image, and not fully understanding it, but feeling rather ancient when it "connects" is also something that seems to happen more with energy-beings than other types of people.

Note, I'm not saying "OHMYGOD UR A SHADOW!!!!" But, I generally define "shadow" as a non-physical energy being made of a kind of dark energy that some people might find difficult to identify and the majority of non-shadows find scary/intimidating. Which seems close to how you describe yourself.

You said you can communicate with "goetics" - I'm not familiar with the term, what are they? I'm also very interested in the things you're feeling near your shoulders. Can you describe more about their shape or how they feel?

Quote:I'm sensing a bit of ego in you too <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s --> This is all circumstantial evidence but in my experience shadows are rather prone to thinking we're big cheeses, not to be messed with, etc.

OHMYGOD URA PSYKIK lol but you did really hit the nail on the head with that one.

Quote:Note, I'm not saying "OHMYGOD UR A SHADOW!!!!" But, I generally define "shadow" as a non-physical energy being made of a kind of dark energy that some people might find difficult to identify and the majority of non-shadows find scary/intimidating. Which seems close to how you describe yourself

Unfourtanatly yes, I run with a rather "sensitive" group of people who always have a feeling of much uneasiness when i am around.

Quote:You said you can communicate with "goetics" - I'm not familiar with the term, what are they? I'm also very interested in the things you're feeling near your shoulders. Can you describe more about their shape or how they feel?

Goetics are the 72 demons king solomon used to build that tower i.e. astaroth and bael, they have ingrained themselves in the sub-consciuos of every human for quite sometime now, the lesser keys of solomon handles them.

There tall (2-3 feet) and cone shaped and slightly pointed inward towards my head, they feel more real and solid than my body does, they dont hurt in-fact it feels quite good to try and "dig" them into things.

grbree Wrote:Goetics are the 72 demons king solomon used to build that tower i.e. astaroth and bael, they have ingrained themselves in the sub-consciuos of every human for quite sometime now, the lesser keys of solomon handles them.

Could you elaborate on this? Is this something Biblical, or is the source elsewhere?

Quote:There tall (2-3 feet) and cone shaped and slightly pointed inward towards my head, they feel more real and solid than my body does, they dont hurt in-fact it feels quite good to try and "dig" them into things.

What happens when you dig them into things? Do they ever change, or are you able to make them change (either in shape or energetic nature)?

It would be terribly unethical to suggest you try digging them into a person to see how/if they react, so of course I would never advise such a thing. But if you did I would non-judgmentally be interested to hear what happened <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s -->