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Where and What is Hell?
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Where and What is Hell?
Is it in your mind or in Dante's cave? Is it your house or in a parallel existence?
In your opinion, what is hell, and where is it?
2008-08-12 19:46
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Re: Where and What is Hell?
IMO, Hell is a fictional idea that was made popular for the same reason as the Boogeyman.

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2008-08-12 21:51
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Re: Where and What is Hell?
Malakoi Wrote:IMO, Hell is a fictional idea that was made popular for the same reason as the Boogeyman.

I'm torn between saying "QFT" and, as the resident shadow and thus the closest thing OKP *has* to a boogeyman, "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!"

Both work.

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2008-08-12 22:42
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Re: Where and What is Hell?
I don't believe hell is really a place but is an eternal state of being. I define "hell" as the eternalization of the reject of God. God being the source of all life, love, joy, health, order, .."good" things. If left in a state of rejecting that source of those things, what would we have?

"hell."
2008-08-12 22:57
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Re: Where and What is Hell?
Archer Wrote:
Malakoi Wrote:IMO, Hell is a fictional idea that was made popular for the same reason as the Boogeyman.

I'm torn between saying "QFT" and, as the resident shadow and thus the closest thing OKP *has* to a boogeyman, "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!"

Both work.

At the risk of sounding like an 80 year old...please tell me what QFT means!
2008-08-13 1:56
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Re: Where and What is Hell?
Archer Wrote:as the resident shadow and thus the closest thing OKP *has* to a boogeyman, "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!"

Of course now, I shall picture you as the Bogeyman from Toejam and Earl, sneaking up as a Shadow and yelling at people...

Anyways...what is hell? What religion? Judaism? Doesn't exist in it. Christianity? Apparently fire and brimstone, or icy. Yezidi? Don't worry about, Hell is cold and safe now. Buddhism? A temporary place where you burn off Karma.

What do I personally think is hell? A state of mind/existence. Hell is what and where you make it. When my kind Fell for the second time, we were in a realm that most would think of Heaven, or at least a "low" Heaven (going from the 7/10 layer model), but to us it was a Hell. We lost our overt Connection to Mother (but as we are Her, we didn't really lose the connection, just an awareness of it) and went insane.

I was lucky, I didn't do the insane period like many of my kind, though I had my lives. When "insane" no matter where we are, it becomes a "hell" a place of madness and suffering and torment.

I've always been fond of the notion that Hell is just the absence of your Divinity, but I've also been found of the notion of "making this hell for us, a heaven", or simply but, sucking it up, and making the best of it.

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2008-08-13 3:41
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Archer Wrote:I'm torn between saying "QFT" and, as the resident shadow and thus the closest thing OKP *has* to a boogeyman, "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!"

At the risk of sounding like an 80 year old...please tell me what QFT means!

Don’t feel too old. I had no clue either. And then not much luck trying to find out (Google, why hast thou forsaken me!)

So is what I found as possibilities to hold us over till someone more versed in chat speak can alieve our curiosity:

Quote:Acronym...Definition
QFT.........Qualified Funeral Trust
QFT.........Quality Face Time
QFT.........Quantitative Feedback Theory
QFT.........Quantitative Fluorescence Technique
QFT.........Quantum Field Theory
QFT.........Quantum Fourier Transform
QFT.........Quest For Tech, Inc.
QFT.........Quit Freaking Talking (polite form)
QFT.........Quite Freaking True (polite form)
QFT.........Quoted For Truth (website; slang)

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I believe that people create their own Hell. I don’t much speculate anymore as to whether it’s a place or state of mind exactly, but rather that it is what a person needs it to be for their own devices.

As for myself: I had a Hell once, and chose to stop being such a whinny teenage know-it-all. Now all I got is me (and it’s friggen awesome).

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Re: Where and What is Hell?
I think QFT is internetz speak for quoted for truth.

As far as I was taught, Hell was an actual place that "bad people" went to when they died instead of going to Heaven and eternal paradise. As far as what I think of Hell now...*shrug* I honestly don't give it much thought. I would hope that people that are mean and nasty (rapists, murderers, etc.) get some kind of divine punishment, but it's not for me to dish out so I might as well mind my own business. I figure if you're basically a good person then you don't need to worry about eternal damnation so I'm hopefully good to go. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

However, there's still a part of me that thinks Dante's 9 circles of Hell are awesome!

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2008-08-13 13:04
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Acta non Verba Wrote:I don't believe hell is really a place but is an eternal state of being. I define "hell" as the eternalization of the reject of God. God being the source of all life, love, joy, health, order, .."good" things. If left in a state of rejecting that source of those things, what would we have?

"hell."

I got to agree with that definition now I think about it. In Religious Education, we were taught that Heaven (from a Christian point of view) was "with God", and Hell was "without God".


Although when I was a lot younger I saw Hell as the burning, destructive place underground where all bad people went to stay after they died as their punishment. For example, Tom and Jerry showed this representation (yes, I know, but bear with me). One of the episodes was where the cat, Tom, bids goodbye to his physical body and finds himself surrounded by fluffy clouds and golden gates (a representation of Heaven) ... then the angel in charge of the registers realises that he's been a bad kitty for chasing Jerry. Said angel pulls a lever and a trapdoor opens into the fiery pits of Hell - complete with a red bulldog with a pitchfork and horns - where Tom will go for being bad if he doesn't get forgiveness from the mouse Jerry.

Only the directors had Tom dream the whole thing so he really wouldn't be in Hell (that'd upset the kiddies) but he wakes up regretting he ever tried to catch Jerry. Until the next episode, that is.

I still think that cartoon partly influenced my view of Hell as a child - it showed me that if I was bad and I intentionally hurt people, I might end up 'down there' like Tom did. Childish it seems, I know - but hey, I was a kid back then. <!-- sTongue --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- sTongue -->


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momo Wrote:Although when I was a lot younger I saw Hell as the burning, destructive place underground where all bad people went to stay after they died as their punishment. For example, Tom and Jerry showed this representation (yes, I know, but bear with me). One of the episodes was where the cat, Tom, bids goodbye to his physical body and finds himself surrounded by fluffy clouds and golden gates (a representation of Heaven) ... then the angel in charge of the registers realises that he's been a bad kitty for chasing Jerry. Said angel pulls a lever and a trapdoor opens into the fiery pits of Hell - complete with a red bulldog with a pitchfork and horns - where Tom will go for being bad if he doesn't get forgiveness from the mouse Jerry.

Only the directors had Tom dream the whole thing so he really wouldn't be in Hell (that'd upset the kiddies) but he wakes up regretting he ever tried to catch Jerry. Until the next episode, that is.

I still think that cartoon partly influenced my view of Hell as a child - it showed me that if I was bad and I intentionally hurt people, I might end up 'down there' like Tom did. Childish it seems, I know - but hey, I was a kid back then. <!-- sTongue --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- sTongue -->

That sort of imagery makes sense when you try to explain it to kids (the group they want to indoctrinate the most), because they're not really able to understand adult philosophical stuff. But somewhere along the line it became literal for adults too and just simply grew.
2008-08-13 18:03
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