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What are we?
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What are we?
I hope this won't bring about any flame wars, and I don't want anyone "correcting" others' ideas about this, but I'd like to hear what some of you think vampires/vampyres are, where we came from, what we are related to either physically or spiritually, if it is purely genetic or purely spiritual or a bit of both? You can give reasons if you feel so inclined, but I'm more interested in the theories themselves.

To start off, I believe that vampirism has both a genetic and spiritual componant. I have family members who have certain vampiric traits but never Awakened, as do many of my friends who are vampyres and a vampyre-devoted site reapersofblood.org attests to. But I think that the genetic aspect simply makes it more likely for a certain type of spirit to either enter the body or develop there before birth, and if this spiritual occurance doesn't happen, the person will never Awaken because they aren't a true vampyre. On the other hand, an Awakened vampyre is more likely to have children who are also vampyres, and these children may even be Awakened from birth.

Thank you for any thought/ideas/rants you wish to express, but all flames will be given to the first fire elemental I come across.

Edit: If anyone has any thoughts on where we "come from" before we are in these forms, I'd especially like to here that, as I can confidently say I have no clue.

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2008-10-25 3:46
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Re: What are we?
firstly, flaming isn't tolerated here (and rarely happens), so don't worry too much about that. in case it does happen, just click the "report" button and the mods will take care of it. <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->

as for your question, i'm not a vampire, although i enjoy some kinds of energy, but i know a whole family of energy vampires. i don't think they are aware of it though. so yes, there seems to be either a genetic component, or being with and being "used" by a vampire for a long time may cause the same deficiency - but that's only my speculation there.

p.s.: you might want to contact zilchy, he is our resident vampire expert, but he doesn't seem to check the forum much lately.

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2008-10-25 10:24
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kahoku Wrote:firstly, flaming isn't tolerated here (and rarely happens), so don't worry too much about that. in case it does happen, just click the "report" button and the mods will take care of it. <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->

Glad I have a way of finding safe havens on the internet. <!-- sBig Grin --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- sBig Grin -->

I'll try Zilchy later, but I'd still like to hear others' personal ideas on this, expert or no.

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2008-10-25 14:46
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Re: What are we?
I personally think that vampires are simply humans with an energy deficiency. While they can also be otherkin, I see vampirism as more of an energy disorder or condition than a separate kintype. I believe certain types of vampires have a genetic or viral component, if they do indeed exist, and these would be Ageless (viral) and Inheritor (genetic), but I don't really believe these types exist. When I meet one I'll be converted <!-- sTongue --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- sTongue -->

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2008-10-25 15:14
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I'm waiting for another forum to come back online so I can copy and paste what I wrote there.

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2008-10-25 17:21
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Re: What are we?
I think a vampire is, pure and simple, an entity who has an energy deficiency caused by either "leaking" energy, or by not being able to produce energy, or by not being able to absorb ambient energy. As such, in order to have enough energy, said individual has to take it from other sentient beings who have already processed and/or concentrated it.

That's it.

I don't think it's a species thing, I don't think it is necessarily a past life thing, and I absolutely don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with vampires of fiction - because in fiction a vampire is just a metaphor for various ideas about sexuality.

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2008-10-25 18:13
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From talking things out with my friend, it seems that psi vampires are unable to process elemental energy. They need energy that is preprocessed by another life form. Taking energy directly from another human is the most satisfying, but it's not necesary. Energy can come from plants or animals, and can also be picked up ambiently in an area where a lot of life puts it out into the air. My friend says that the swamp near his house is good for that. That's one componenet.

The other component is that he's also a channel. Instead of channeling energy into this plane, he channels it out, somewhere else. He says he doesn't know where it goes. Anyway, in his case it doesn't appear to be caused by a deficiency or a sickness. It's actually the wasy he was designed, to gather and channel living energy into...who knows where. But with his elvish ties I have a theory that he's channeling it back into the earth. In that case, good or evil doesn't come into it. He's just part of the natural living processes of the planet (Gaia).

(We're sort of polar opposites. I channel energy into this plane from elsewhere and have a hard time grounding it out into the element of earth, but I can ground it into a living spirit or being.)

For some people it may be a result of sickness or injury, but that's not the case for everyone.

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2008-10-25 19:57
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Motley Wrote:From talking things out with my friend, it seems that psi vampires are unable to process elemental energy. They need energy that is preprocessed by another life form. Taking energy directly from another human is the most satisfying, but it's not necesary. Energy can come from plants or animals, and can also be picked up ambiently in an area where a lot of life puts it out into the air. My friend says that the swamp near his house is good for that. That's one componenet.

This, of course, would not include the branch of psi vampires that are elemental feeders?

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2008-10-26 3:39
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zimmerchild Wrote:This, of course, would not include the branch of psi vampires that are elemental feeders?

By that do you mean "psi vampires" who feed on pure elemental energy?

If it doesn't need to feed on another living entity, in my opinion the term "vampire" flat out doesn't fit.

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2008-10-26 17:30
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zimmerchild Wrote:
Motley Wrote:From talking things out with my friend, it seems that psi vampires are unable to process elemental energy. They need energy that is preprocessed by another life form. Taking energy directly from another human is the most satisfying, but it's not necesary. Energy can come from plants or animals, and can also be picked up ambiently in an area where a lot of life puts it out into the air. My friend says that the swamp near his house is good for that. That's one componenet.

This, of course, would not include the branch of psi vampires that are elemental feeders?

I don't claim to know all psi vampires or all types. My observations are based on one that I've had a lot of discussion with. But I wonder why feeding on elemental energy would class someone as a vampire? The majority of people do that, whether they realize it or not. In Chinese medicine, everyone needs chi to keep them healthy. But most people don't require it to come from a living source if they are otherwise healthy because they process it internally to make it useable.

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