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Vegetarianism
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Vegetarianism
Are you vegetarian? Have you ever gone vegetarian or considered becoming one?
Considering going back to a vegetarian diet, and I did follow a vegetarian diet for quite a brief time in my early teens.

If you have been or are, do moral issues influence your decision (such as campaigns fighting for better conditions for animals raised for meat/boycotting campaigns) or is it due simply to not liking the taste of meat?
Now, it's because I've gone off meat. We don't have a lot of meat in the house anyway. (This is also my dad's reason, but he once told someone - "I'm a vegetarian, but I only eat chicken and fish." <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> )

When I was younger it was because one of my friends was involved with PETA and handing out vegetarianism leaflets around school. As I was in her lessons, she kept talking to me about it - and I did it in the end just to see what it was like to follow a different diet. (I didn't last long, though, maybe only about two months.)

What do you think of vegetarianism?
If people are happy following that diet, good for them.

Any vegetarian-suitable recipes you'd like to share?
I'm currently at college [which means I don't have access currently], but there's a nice soup recipe I've found.

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Are you vegetarian? Have you ever gone vegetarian or considered becoming one?
No, I am not and never will be. I have studied archeaology and agree with archeaologists in that humans are/were omnivores. A healthy diet of meats and vegetables is the best choice.

If you have been or are, do moral issues influence your decision (such as campaigns fighting for better conditions for animals raised for meat/boycotting campaigns) or is it due simply to not liking the taste of meat?
No, it doesn't. I sometimes feel bad for the method of death, however my sister has been to slaughter houses (she did an internship for the state in which she had to check the animals for health, sanitation, etc.) and despite people thinking it's cruel, it really isn't. It's swift and virtually painless. And I thank the animal spirits (and plant spirits for that matter) for their sacrifice when I eat which I think is acceptable. I also know that even if I stopped eating meat, the industry wouldn't crash so I might as well enjoy it. I also love the taste of meat. Now don't get me wrong, I eat my veggies too. Well, some of them anyway. But the green ones seem to have a problem with me and practically make me vomit so I don't eat a lot of those. However, a diet of just meat wouldn't be healthy either (and neither is pure vegetarianism for that matter). Humans require both animal and vegetable substances to live healthy lives.

What do you think of vegetarianism?
If you like it, go nuts, but it is not for me.

Any vegetarian-suitable recipes you'd like to share?
Pasta dishes are awesome!

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2008-02-04 14:49
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Re: Vegetarianism
Are you vegetarian? Have you ever gone vegetarian or considered becoming one?
i have considered it, and gave it a try. however, after a while i'd crave for meat, so i usually go with having it once a week or so, just a little bit.

If you have been or are, do moral issues influence your decision (such as campaigns fighting for better conditions for animals raised for meat/boycotting campaigns) or is it due simply to not liking the taste of meat?
it's firstly a religious thing - as a buddhist, i don't want a being to suffer or be killed, secondly i know that these animals do suffer in most cases. when eating meat, i try to get some from trustworthy sources.

What do you think of vegetarianism?
it is a decision everyone has to make for themselves, and the others should respect this. there's nothing worse than people mocking or trying to "convert" the other.

Any vegetarian-suitable recipes you'd like to share?
my favorite recipe: take whatever you find, put it into a pot, heat it, see what comes out.

for less adventurous cooks:
take a bit of olive oil and 1 onion, chopped, put them into a pot, heat it until the onion is golden, add 2 cups of rice, 4 cups of water, and whatever vegetables you like. (i usually go with green pepper and tomatos.) then add lots of curry, a little salt and pepper, put the lid on the pot and, with low heat, let it boil for about 15 minutes.

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2008-02-04 16:57
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Re: Vegetarianism
Are you vegetarian? Have you ever gone vegetarian or considered becoming one?
I have a hard enough time getting enough to get by as it is. I'm not going to pass by good food just because it used to go "moo".

If you have been or are, do moral issues influence your decision (such as campaigns fighting for better conditions for animals raised for meat/boycotting campaigns) or is it due simply to not liking the taste of meat?
Doesn't apply to me.

What do you think of vegetarianism?
I'll respect anyone that believes in something enough. It's just not for me.

Any vegetarian-suitable recipes you'd like to share?
Not really. I don't cook much beyond a box of mac and cheese or a pbj.

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2008-02-04 17:43
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I'm back with my recipe. I gave it a try tonight - I stress the importance that 'simmer' means 'low heat'. (As of now, I don't know anybody else who's burnt soup. D'oh. Luckily, I scraped off the burnt bits off the bottom of the pan, fished them out, and turned down the heat. The finished product was indeed very nice and there's some saved for tomorrow's lunch.)

Onion soup

YOU WILL NEED (for 2 people):
1 garlic clove. (I used only half a clove for this. It's mainly there to add flavour, so it's okay to miss it out if you're not a fan or to add some more if you like it.)
An onion. (Medium to large)
Vegetable stock. (I used a pint and one third, about 4 Oxo cubes. I didn't have the ingredients to make my own veggie stock, but I have a recipe if anyone wants it.)
2tbsp of plain flour.
Vegetable oil.

1. Chop up the onion and garlic thinly, while running out partway through to mop up your eyes if you're affected by the fumes or running out halfway to breath a lungful of fresh air/gag if you hate the smell of raw garlic.

2. Pour a generous amount of oil into a medium sized saucepan, and heat it up on the stove.

3. Once your oil is heated, drop your onion bits into it. Be VERY careful when doing this, oil splashes can sting. <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Turn the onion around in the oil for about 10 mins until they start to brown, then add your garlic bits. Leave your mixture on a LOW heat for 30 mins, go watch a half-hour TV show or something to help you measure the time, though you must return to check on your mixture once every ten minutes to stir it.

4. Mix up your stock if you're using instant. (Follow the instructions on the back.) If you want to make your own stock, I suggest you do this the day before. The longer a home-made stock is left to stand, the more flavour it develops (apparently).

5. Add your two spoonfuls of flour to your onion/garlic creation. Yes, I know, once you mix it up it sticks together, and it looks GROSS. (I actually checked the recipe for printing errors, but it's a correct instruction.) Cook that for two minutes ONLY.

6. Then, add your stock gradually. Give your mix of smelly onion/garlic/flour-delight a gentle stir as you do this, then stick it on a low heat (very low, or else you'll burn it like I did!) for 45 minutes. Check on it every 10 minutes to give it a quick stir and to make sure it doesn't burn.The onion and garlic WILL separate, don't worry. I thought it'd stick together in lumps after adding the flour, but it was fine.

7. If the stock is looking thick and tasty, you're done!

8. Eat it. (I actually chucked in some potato at instruction 6, but only because it needed using up. For the record, it goes well with the soup.)

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Are you vegetarian? Have you ever gone vegetarian or considered becoming one?

Nope, closest thing I ever did was cut out all meat other than seafood just to see if I could.

If you have been or are, do moral issues influence your decision (such as campaigns fighting for better conditions for animals raised for meat/boycotting campaigns) or is it due simply to not liking the taste of meat?

I don't agree with most of the factory farming that goes on in America thus try to purchase meat only from places that do not do such.

What do you think of vegetarianism?

Being a cook and gourmet foodie I pretty much agree with Anthony Bourdain, unless the person's diet is religion based. However to each there own.

"Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food. The body, these waterheads imagine, is a temple that should not be polluted by animal protein. It's healthier, they insist, though every vegetarian waiter I've worked with is brought down by any rumor of a cold. Oh, I'll accommodate them, I'll rummage around for something to feed them, for a 'vegetarian plate', if called on to do so. Fourteen dollars for a few slices of grilled eggplant and zucchini suits my food cost fine." Anthony Bourdain, From Kitchen Confidential, p. 70.

Any vegetarian-suitable recipes you'd like to share?

I have plenty of recipes, too many to post here, comes with being a cook.
2008-02-04 19:41
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Are you vegetarian? Have you ever gone vegetarian or considered becoming one?
nope, i can cut way down on it but not stop.

If you have been or are, do moral issues influence your decision (such as campaigns fighting for better conditions for animals raised for meat/boycotting campaigns) or is it due simply to not liking the taste of meat?
Umm, well i like meat so it's not that, i prefer organic meat simply because the treatment tends to better. but i'm poor so i don't stick to it like ever.

What do you think of vegetarianism?
It's fine if done correctly, but it is found that there are certain things missing, like keratin (I think that's the one.) So I'm not too comfortable

Any vegetarian-suitable recipes you'd like to share?
Now for the real reason I replied. these were some that I sent to my first college roommate whose fiancé is a vegetarian.

Layered Mexican Dip
layer in order:
1 16oz can refried beans
1/2 pkg taco season
1 6 oz avocado dip (guacamole)
1 8oz container sour cream
1 4.5oz can chopped ripe olives
2 large tomatoes, Diced
1 small onion, diced
1 4oz can chopped green chili
1.5 cups shredded Monterey jack cheese

Split Pea Soup
2 cups split green peas, picked over and washed
2.5 cups cold water
2 tsp. sea salt (optional)
2 ribs of celery with leaves roughly chopped
1 onion, sliced
1 large carrot, quartered
1 bay leaf
1/4 tsp chervil
1.2 tsp savory
Place peas in large pot with all other ingredients. bring to a boil, cover, and simmer 1.5-2 hours or until peas are tender. remove meat from bones and place in clean pan. discard bone, skin, and gristle. pass soup through a food mill (processor). add ham pieces. reheat and check seasoning.

In this recipe there is normally ham so you may want to add vegetable bouillon.

Serian Bread Fill
1 lb. ground beef (lean, <5%) (use fo meat instead)
1/4 cup butter or margarine
2 large onions, chopped
2 tsp fresh chopped ginger
1 med clove of garlic crushed
1 tsp salt
1 tsp turmeric
1 tsp cumin
1 tsp ground coriander
1/4 tsp red pepper (optional-herb)
1/4 cup water
1/2 pkg frozen green peas
3 chopped tomatoes, cubed
1 container plain yogurt
Melt butter and brown garlic. remove garlic. add onion and cook on low until tender (wilted). remove onion (keep in dish). brown ground beef on med-hi. add all spices, water, peas, and onions, and simmer 10-15 min (note: the longer it sits the hotter it gets). Scoop into pita bread halves. top with plain yogurt and tomatoes ( mix before hand if preferred.)

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but leave out pork or ham add an extra egg and use vegetable bouillon, I also use brown rice instead.

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Quote:"Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food. The body, these waterheads imagine, is a temple that should not be polluted by animal protein. It's healthier, they insist, though every vegetarian waiter I've worked with is brought down by any rumor of a cold. Oh, I'll accommodate them, I'll rummage around for something to feed them, for a 'vegetarian plate', if called on to do so. Fourteen dollars for a few slices of grilled eggplant and zucchini suits my food cost fine."
Anthony Bourdain, From Kitchen Confidential, p. 70.

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Taiaka Wrote:
Quote:"Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food. The body, these waterheads imagine, is a temple that should not be polluted by animal protein. It's healthier, they insist, though every vegetarian waiter I've worked with is brought down by any rumor of a cold. Oh, I'll accommodate them, I'll rummage around for something to feed them, for a 'vegetarian plate', if called on to do so. Fourteen dollars for a few slices of grilled eggplant and zucchini suits my food cost fine."
Anthony Bourdain, From Kitchen Confidential, p. 70.

*dies* That guy's my f-ing hero.

In fact Oprah's resident weirdo Doc Oz (my wife loves the guy <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> ) did a study and concluded that meat in appropriate portions is healthy for you. In fact, if you're athletically active and living vegan or vegetarian, you're basically handicapping yourself.

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Xanthus Wrote:did a study and concluded that meat in appropriate portions is healthy for you. In fact, if you're athletically active and living vegan or vegetarian, you're basically handicapping yourself.

Actually, the study showed that only 1 out of the 6 vegans showed any improvement, and it was only a 10% improvement. They decided that eating meat was not an advantage.

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