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Vampires are demons?
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Vampires are demons?
are vampire otherkin always demon? or are they considered something else.

I believe my vampire part of my soul is demon.... but are there more possibilities to what it could be?

(can you move this to the vampire section, I didn't notice it.... x,x)
2012-07-12 21:35
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Re: Vampires are demons?
Kapaki Wrote:are vampire otherkin always demon? or are they considered something else.

Vampires (who only identify as vampires) are often considered not to be a type of otherkin because many vampires identify as humans with an energetic deficiency...thus there is nothing "non-human" about them. That being said, there is a lot of crossover between this type of vampire and otherkin as many otherkin are also vampires. The difference would be fictive-kin/fiction-kin who identify specifically as vampires of fiction.

Kapaki Wrote:I believe my vampire part of my soul is demon.... but are there more possibilities to what it could be?

Lots of beings have vampiric natures. Many fae, mythical creatures, etc. are vampiric/vampires as well...or it's just a vampire...a race all its own, not belonging to a larger umbrella term.

Kapaki Wrote:(can you move this to the vampire section, I didn't notice it.... x,x)

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2012-07-12 21:56
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Re: Vampires are demons?
Seraphyna Wrote:
Kapaki Wrote:I believe my vampire part of my soul is demon.... but are there more possibilities to what it could be?

Lots of beings have vampiric natures. Many fae, mythical creatures, etc. are vampiric/vampires as well...or it's just a vampire...a race all its own, not belonging to a larger umbrella term.

I assume i'm fae then because my succubus is fae.
2012-07-12 22:07
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Re: Vampires are demons?
I would think the vampire thing would be a part of the succubus identity.

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2012-07-13 0:14
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Re: Vampires are demons?
There are some otherkin who identify as "vampirekin" meaning they identify with the fictional idea of vampires but may or may not be vampires in the need for energy or blood sense. The one's we have met consider themselves in their own category just as "gryphonkin" and 'adletkin" and such don't fit into any subsection of otherkin.

Plus like, Seraphyna said a number of sang and psy vampires don't consider themselves otherkin to begin with plus i don't think we have met any who would consider themselves a subset of some kind of otherkin less their vampirism was part of identifying as some kind of otherkin type.

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2012-07-13 2:05
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Re: Vampires are demons?
I am uncertain as to what you mean when you say "vampire part of my soul". The trait most commonly associated with Vampires -- the need to take in <life> from another living creature so as to sustain itself (vampirism) -- is the symptom of a condition. Though I apologize for the negative connotation implied with this association, you would call a vampiric person a vampire much like you would call somebody with leprosy a leper. Being called a "leper" does not make them any less human, it simply denotes their condition.


I imagine there exists demons that are naturally vampiric, however, which may very well explain the reason for this association. If one were to "discover" a trait and apply a title to the being that holds it based on such (vampire), then one is more likely to append any subsequently discovered traits (demon) as a modifier as opposed to redetermining the initial identity.

In such a case, one would naturally be inclined to believe it a "demonic vampire" as opposed to a "vampiric demon". Though one might argue it a case of semantics, one must be wary of the application of such titles, lest it provide undue influence.

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2012-07-13 2:51
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Re: Vampires are demons?
Chimera Wrote:There are some otherkin who identify as "vampirekin" meaning they identify with the fictional idea of vampires but may or may not be vampires in the need for energy or blood sense. The one's we have met consider themselves in their own category just as "gryphonkin" and 'adletkin" and such don't fit into any subsection of otherkin.

Plus like, Seraphyna said a number of sang and psy vampires don't consider themselves otherkin to begin with plus i don't think we have met any who would consider themselves a subset of some kind of otherkin less their vampirism was part of identifying as some kind of otherkin type.

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I agree with you--although I imagine you're also in part referring to what you've heard from me talk about my vampire 'kintype <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->. I don't see my vampire 'kintype (a blutpir, I alternatively call it) as falling under any of the typically mentioned broad otherkin subcategories, including demon. Although I haven't posted any of my writings on being blutpir here yet, it's a toss up as to whether I would post them under the Vampire forum or the 'Other/Mixed' forum, though I'd honestly prefer the latter since the Vampire forum is heavily geared toward the energy-deficient-condition kind of vampires, rather than those with vampire 'kintypes.

Those with the energy-deficient "vampire" condition, I wouldn't classify as being otherkin, unless they were otherkin aside from that energy-condition (whether they had a vampire 'kintype or not), especially since I don't see how the equivalent of a 'medical'/physical condition (even if it maybe caused by a more spirit, soul, or pranic based reason) that results in chronic or lifetime energy-deficiency would count as being/identifying as being non-human, non-physically.

Now other people's views maybe different, but I'm more apt to see vampire 'kintypes as their own kind of 'race'/'species'/etc., rather than tending to consider certain demons, fae, elves, or whatever roughly 'humanoid' (or non-humanoid) 'kintype that seems 'vampiric' in certain ways (and the definitions on what counts as 'vampiric' seem to vary a lot) as being called, itself, specifically "a vampire". I will note though that vampire'kin don't have to be limited to fictionkin (that is, having a 'kintype, in this case vampire, that is found in or is a product of fictional media, rather than from mythological, folklore, or legend based sources), but it tends to be much more likely, I think, for vampire'kin to have a 'kintype that is of a fictional-based concept of vampires (whether or not it's from a specific fictional source), especially since those are the vampire concepts most people are anymore most familiar with--at least in certain parts of the world--instead of the various myths and folklore of vampires.

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2012-07-13 3:31
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Re: Vampires are demons?
Seraphyna Wrote:I would think the vampire thing would be a part of the succubus identity.

I believe there two separate entities. not one.

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2012-07-13 16:57
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Re: Vampires are demons?
I do not consider myself to be otherkin, I consider myself to be a vampire who needs to feed from multiple sources to get whatever it is we need. Whether it's actually energy or some kind of substance in the blood, I take in both. Someone can have vampiric tendencies and not be a vampire. Usually that is the case with those that identify as otherkin and have vampiric needs. You consider part of yourself to be succubus, so more then likely that is where your vampiric tendencies come from. Succubi and Incubi, although demons, also suck life from beings, which is why they are often confused for a vampire.

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2012-07-20 2:15
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RE: Vampires are demons?
I identify as demon yet have vampiric/succbus feeding habits. Needing both blood and energy. I've been in and out vampire comunites and there seems to be a large range of different definitions related to their feeding habits. Ultamitly I'd say what do you conect to, demons or vampires? Because both do feed.
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