Shiari Wrote:While europeans never saw komodo dragons, they WOULD have encountered crocodiles. Anyone who has EVER played the telephone game can understand how stories get exagerated over time. And especially during the Roman era, tales of 'dragons' would have spread like mad all over europe.
I'm one that's seen very little connection between dragons and Crocodiles, myself. Beyond both being reptilian, either in appearance or in actuality, I don't see many other combining features. Have to be very vage, I imagine. Komodos and other actual lizards hold more similarities, from what I can see. Snake only when it comes to body shape, as that's about all a snake has.
Quote:Equally, europe is where a great many of the pterosaur fossils and whatnot are found. Those alone are ideal to create the dragon mythos.
I'll agree with that one. Giant bones would only naturally spawn myths of rather large beats wandering about. Wing bones would suggest either large birds or dragons, and last I knew Europe had both.
Quote:Let us also remember that the human imagination is an incredible thing, and certainly if we can see objects in clouds and inkblots, people could see a 'dragon' in a commet.
Inkblots have never made sense to me; All I ever see with those is random splats and shapes. Far as clouds go, They're puffballs that hold one way to pass time while resting outdoors. I guess I'm just overly literal minded.
Quote:Furthermore, the concept of 'dragon' as a six (or four... or two) limbed, winged beastie is entirely just european. The eastern "dragon" resembles, oddly enough, a crocodile/serpent/giant carp. Let us acknowledge that koi and carp are thought to have the potential to be baby dragons. The typical "dragons" of africa, of australia, and of the americas were *serpents* and snakes are everywhere. Dragon was only placed upon them because that was the european way of describing anything monstrous.
When someone says dragon, you're going to think of the European version firstly, unless you happen to have been raised in the orient or among one of those older ways. It's just the way America has become, largely European based. I'm one of the first to acknowledge other types of dragons, but let's face it: Dragons not of the six limbed variety are something of a minority, in this country at least. For simplicities sake, I just don't always include the redundancy of the other kinds.
In any case, as far as oriental dragons go, I agree the snaky body, as that's one of the defining characteristics of an oriental dragon. Beyond that, I once again fail to see much resemblance to anything else. Crocs once again hold little similarity to dragons I can discern, and Carp similarities halt as the whiskers, which are both so much longer proportionally than the fish's and may not even be present on some.
American dragons I can see, being rather plainly a snake with bird wings. Quetzalcoatl is about the only one that comes to mind however. African dragons, from what I can glean, are kinda Wyvrens, which are essentially European dragons minus the front legs. Once again, something that's rarely heard about. And in the case of Africa, it's entirely possible that there has been trade between the northern areas of it and Europe for as long as boats have existed. If Natives in Indonesia can traverse the ocean in canoes, It stands to reason that coastal areas of Africa can do the same with the Mediterranean. And there is some evidence of it in Egypt, for that matter.