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The legalization of Marijuana
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Asheyboom;; Wrote:Netherlands researchers have concluded that the use of Cannabis approximately doubles risks of developing schizophrenia.

This is interesting - got any links*?

* General disclaimer - to reputble journals/websites only, and specifically showing causation rather than correlation

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Post: #22
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Well this is where I got that little nugget of information from but I don't know if it's any good in terms of your general disclaimer.
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2008-05-20 20:41
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Archer Wrote:What are your opinions on age restrictions for legal drugs, etc alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine?

With any and all drugs, I believe they should be legally available for anyone over 18 to purchase, and legal to consume/imbibe by minors when accompanied by a parent or legal guardian.

Why 18? Because(at least here and in most countries) you're a legal adult, and therefore if you screw someone's property or life up, you and only you are responsible for it.

I'd go with the whole "we don't need restriction" thing, and really, I don't think we do, but that would require kids to be as socially/financially/mentally/emotionally/physically/sexually responsible as adults. Which, to an extent, they can be, but in order for the no-restrictions idea to work we'd have to completely change society's idea of what parenting is, etc. etc. We'd have to re-do society... for it to work. XD

Then again, my ideas on how stuff should function don't really revolve around society working out harmoniously; they're more of a "this would benefit me and my loved ones," kinda double standard.

Even caffeine. I'm going out on a limb by saying that, and I'm kind of a hypocrite, because energy drinks were my big "fix" before I'd ever turned 18. Still, if too much caffeine can cause negative repercussions(and past experiences say it can), you can go buy your Rockstar energy drinks when you're 18. Until then, let your mom get it for you.

Actually, you know what? Screw the restrictions bit. I do like the idea of having none. One of the big problems with drug use, in my opinion, is that people aren't informed enough. Same goes with teenage sexual activity and so on. We don't tell people, "hey, if you do heroin, the side effects are this and this and this," we go, "hey, don't do heroin!! it's evil and will kill you!!" to which all the anti-authority risk-takers go "COOL" and shoot up. Personally, if I didn't know about the effects of heroin on the body, just being told it's dangerous and not to do it would make me want to do it. I can't say the thought hadn't crossed my mind several times before, I was just too lazy to go out looking for it.

So if we just informed people more, told people how things work, what will happen, all in a very non-biased way, perhaps people would listen.

Mind you, I understand that some people will go "screw the warning label" and do it anyway, but hey, like I said, I'm not their mommy. If they wanna kill themselves on an overdose, it isn't my problem.

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Yay caffeine addiction... well except for the noticeable withdrawl symptoms.

The world runs on money (and/or power). I don't think the multi-billion dollar soft/energy/coffee drink industry is going to let you ban caffeine. Same with alcohol etc.

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Kreyas Wrote:Yay caffeine addiction... well except for the noticeable withdrawl symptoms.

The world runs on money (and/or power). I don't think the multi-billion dollar soft/energy/coffee drink industry is going to let you ban caffeine. Same with alcohol etc.

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Quite the contrary... I'd like someone to help me legalize everything else. xD

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A friend and I have often discussed how we would write the laws about drug usage and we came to a conclusion something like this:

1. If the government says that a person owns his own body, he is allowed to do whatever he wants to it, including eat, drink, smoke or otherwise intake any substance, mutilate or harm it, even commit suicide.
2. Therefore, usage of drugs should not be illegal.
3. However, sale of drugs without a special license should be illegal as that is where the majority of drug-driven problems arise.
4. There could/should be a limit on the quantity that any entity is allowed to carry for sale or personal purposes at any given time.
5. Serious and unbiased drug education should be made a part of compulsory schooling, in order to help prevent misinformed choices about drugs.
6. Taxes should be paid on drugs.
7. Certain high-risk drugs such as cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines should not be legal to manufacture or sell inside the country but can be imported for personal use only in certain quantities, if someone really wants them that badly.

I personally believe that it is morally wrong and ideologically contradictory for the government to tell any human being to which it has given human rights that he cannot do whatever he wants to his own body.

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Malakoi Wrote:A friend and I have often discussed how we would write the laws about drug usage and we came to a conclusion something like this:

1. If the government says that a person owns his own body, he is allowed to do whatever he wants to it, including eat, drink, smoke or otherwise intake any substance, mutilate or harm it, even commit suicide.
2. Therefore, usage of drugs should not be illegal.
3. However, sale of drugs without a special license should be illegal as that is where the majority of drug-driven problems arise.
4. There could/should be a limit on the quantity that any entity is allowed to carry for sale or personal purposes at any given time.
5. Serious and unbiased drug education should be made a part of compulsory schooling, in order to help prevent misinformed choices about drugs.
6. Taxes should be paid on drugs.
7. Certain high-risk drugs such as cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines should not be legal to manufacture or sell inside the country but can be imported for personal use only in certain quantities, if someone really wants them that badly.

I personally believe that it is morally wrong and ideologically contradictory for the government to tell any human being to which it has given human rights that he cannot do whatever he wants to his own body.

I'm going to second that. I agree completely with what you just said.

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A third aye from my corner.

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2008-05-23 18:55
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Malakoi Wrote:A friend and I have often discussed how we would write the laws about drug usage and we came to a conclusion something like this:

1. If the government says that a person owns his own body, he is allowed to do whatever he wants to it, including eat, drink, smoke or otherwise intake any substance, mutilate or harm it, even commit suicide.
2. Therefore, usage of drugs should not be illegal.
3. However, sale of drugs without a special license should be illegal as that is where the majority of drug-driven problems arise.
4. There could/should be a limit on the quantity that any entity is allowed to carry for sale or personal purposes at any given time.
5. Serious and unbiased drug education should be made a part of compulsory schooling, in order to help prevent misinformed choices about drugs.
6. Taxes should be paid on drugs.
7. Certain high-risk drugs such as cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines should not be legal to manufacture or sell inside the country but can be imported for personal use only in certain quantities, if someone really wants them that badly.

I personally believe that it is morally wrong and ideologically contradictory for the government to tell any human being to which it has given human rights that he cannot do whatever he wants to his own body.

It's not what you do to yourself, it's what you do to others. Drinking is legal, letting alcohol allow you to impose harm among others is not (public drunkenness, drunk driving, disorderly conduct etc.). It's the same logic behind making smoking illegal.

We're moving towards a nanny state. It seems easier to make something illegal than it is to legalize common behavior.

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I personally do not like it. While I see it is useful, and I have no issue with someone who is going through chemo or is going to be dead in a month using it, I think it is irresponsible to use it for... recreational purposes.

Why? The people I have seen using it for kicks can't hold jobs, can't get jobs, don't bother to get jobs... or shower, or go to school, or move out of their parents house, or buy their own groceries. Heck, a "friend" of mine blew up at me when I explained why I didn't like it, so the friendship is apparently no more. Not only have I done it, but I've watched from the sidelines. From where I stand, the pros are outweighed by the cons. I also can't stand the smell, it drives me up the wall.

I don't care if it's legalized or not. I can see that it would make quite a bit of money for the government, and people who may actually need it to deal with pain would find it easier to purchase and keep. However, I like to keep a clear head, and with the job I have I cannot risk it. No one wants someone who's baked working on their car.

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