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Subtle-body Inactivity?
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Subtle-body Inactivity?
As a refinement to an earlier thread, Varkadevi shall restate the problem. For clarity's sake, Varkadevi is using the Chinese/Taoist view of the energy pathways, and less so the indian system(chakras). As is generally recognized, spiritual? energy flows through the body through certain channels, with certain "points" or energetic-organs being of particular activity and importance. The three main ones recognized by Taoist thought are the Three 'Dan Tian' centers. One on the forehead, one in the chest, one in the abdomen area. Each governing Mental, Emotional, and Physical faculties, respectively. In Varkadevi's case, the first two are felt rather clearly, however.. the abdominal center, as well as the pathways which should correspond to the limbs and such are generally not felt at all, in fact they often feel "dead" and foreign, as if the physical limbs and any energies therein are a sort of infection to be avoided. Varkadevi can't help but think at this point, that the two occurrences are somehow related. One theory is that this happens in part because Varkadevi has a conscious and sub-conscious rejection/disgust of the host vessel and wants to be rid of it, and recently realized during deep-relaxation(in preparation for OBE attempts) that the extremities and every area apart from the Third Eye, mind, left shoulder, and heart? tend to "go to sleep" quite rapidly now, perhaps due to a lack of activity there to begin with? Questions and/or constructive input are quite encouraged.

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2009-03-30 10:23
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The general advice is to get the lower one active first. Once it's full then the other two fill naturally by themselves. To go the other way leads to all kinds of health problems. You get the stereotypical mage with awesome psychic powers who's constantly getting sick and feeling puny. (like Dr. Xavier! Way too much chi in the head bro!)

You may not like your body, but it's yours for as long as you're here. If you don't take care of it then it won't take care of you. If the body feels like crap, you feel like crap.

You've probably got some major chi blocks going on. Chi blocks are not pleasant. Clearing them out is not pleasant. Whatever negative things went into creating them will be brought back up to the surface in order to be cleared out of your system. But each time one of those little suckers lets go, it feels really good. If you've got a lot of them, it can take years to get them all.

Try focusing on the lower Tan Tien, even if you can't quite feel it, do it anyway. See it as a little ball. As you breathe in, feel it expand. As you breathe out, feel it contract. Take it easy and don't force it. If it only moves a tiny bit, then that's ok. If you only imagine that it moves a tiny bit, then that's ok. This might be about the time that one of those chi blocks makes itself felt. Don't shy away from it. Feel it melting away. If it only melts a little bit then that's fine too. You've got plenty of time to work on it.

In other words. I'm not going to tell you that it's ok to just leave things as they are.

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2009-03-30 17:22
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As of a few moments ago, there are 2-4 areas in which some sort of 'activity' is felt. 2 opposite areas, where 2 centers are active with a secondary area affiliated with it. Base-Sacral and Brow-Throat?. Upon re-reading some of the materials on the chakra-system interpretations(and there are quite a few) these four areas make sense, as a reflection of Varkadevi's person.. The Heart is tricky, and as Motley surmised, there was no real sensation in the abominal region..not as a real, active "point" per se. The Base felt somewhat like an orb at the base of the spine, with some additional sensation in the sacral region(the two were close enough that is was almost enough to misread). As for the Throat, it's a constant sort of presence, even when not practicing(like the aforementioned centers)... however it seems to be connected to the brow chakra, which.. upon being intentionally aroused, seemed to emanate from around the nasal bridge, extending upwards slightly, then branching in two directions(over either 'eye' area) with a peculiar glowing sensation over the right eye point where the branch ended.

Motley: The thing is, there's a complication(in the way of another presence in the body) which may possibly be the host..or some remaining fragment of its consciousness that has survived Varkadevi's awakening process. And that is why I'm hesitant with trying to "connect" with something that feels "blocked" or in this case "infected/quarantined" as Varkadevi or someone else may have done this intentionally to keep the two presences seperated.

It's interesting that the Indian and Chinese systems seem united on a few points, however the Indian system seems to deviate from medicinal/physical application and focus on the religious components(which Varkadevi does not believe in and therefore most of the chakra materials are useless), however it would seem that even their "traditional" sources do not agree on the number of major chakras, which leads this one to believe that there is room for variation. If there is variation within regular humans, Varkadevi has to wonder about other species.. And as Motley mentioned about certain chakras becoming more prominent, Varkadevi is of the opinion that this phenomenon is not only natural, but can be a good thing. What happens to individuality if every being has the same exact energy in the same way in the same proportions..

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2009-03-31 9:33
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Re: Subtle-body Inactivity?
If you can't take an internal inventory, then try an external one.

How do you feel physically? Do you feel healthy, or are you often sick? How's your sense of balance and coordination? Do you feel strong or weak? How about your appetite and libido? Too strong? Not strong enough? How long does it take you to heal from injury?

And likewise, if you can't do an internal solution, try an external one. Get some exercise, drink lots of water and don't eat junk.

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