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Split Souls
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Split Souls
I have somewhere read that a soul/spirit/what you may refer to it as is capable of splitting apart and become two or more, which go off to do their own things. I am currently wondering if after doing their own thing, is it possible for the now separated soul to come back together, or for the souls to inhabit the same body? After being apart for so long, would they be a sort of separate entities?

Keir and (mainly) I have been questioning ourselves with this. We feel that at one time, we may have been one being which then separated, and now we're back, but not exactly joined.

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2008-04-09 0:13
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Re: Split Souls
I don't believe a soul is capable of splitting. I do believe that souls can dissassociate with different facets or even versions of themselves.

Let's say a person lives a life as a Lion, then dies and is reincarnated as a Human peasant in feudal Japan, and is finally reincarnated here as a person named Bob who is a self-righteous kid in an upper middleclass family with a can-do attitude and a lot of interests.

Bob might start to awaken to his past lives, it may start out as a voice within his head, a voice that roars with the force of a majestic lion, it tells him to hunt, to be sporting, to be proud and not to back down, and in times of weakness of Bob that Lion might even step up to the plate. Other times, when someone challenges Bob on an idea, he might hear the meek voice of the Japanese peasant, one who was used to bowing and scraping to superiors, it tells Bob to just take what is said and try not to screw it up next time, to be respectful. Bob is not like either of these, he finds these voices alien to him. They stay as separate voices and influences in his mind, and he shifts between their personalities from time to time.

Eventually, Bob learns more about himself and these other entities, he discovers that they are him, just from a different life with different influences and personalities. Bob still knows they exist, but they are now fully integrated as part of him, as if it was one long lifetime, not several different lives smashed into his head as he endures this one.

That is my belief on the matter, while I do not disbelieve in multiples and walk-ins, I do believe that there are a number among them who are experiencing dis-associative personalities from their other, less remembered, past lives and have not yet integrated them in.

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2008-04-09 2:23
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Re: Split Souls
In my case, my "soul" (oh how I detest that word) did not split; rather part of it was ripped apart and part of it was, again for want of a better word, surgically altered. Essentially what had once between two whole people were spliced/transplanted to form two subtly different people.

This is how I'm a multiple - I'm 90% "me" and 10% bits of "my other half". As far as I am aware, wherever he is he's the same but with the balance in the other direction.

There is a very fine line between him and me, if such a line even exists. Can the bits me put back in their original order? Possibly. Would it be a good idea? Possibly.

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2008-04-09 17:19
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Is it possible? I lean towards yes. Is it likely? I sticking with no. Most people I know with more than one personality (myself once included) seem to be manifesting different people as a result of dealing (this is more negative than what I wanted but, you get the idea) with stuff (once again a bad word but stick with me <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink --> ). I do know someone that tried dealing with his otherkinness by severing his soul (tried it twice if I remember correctly) but as of the last time we talked he had shown signs of failure in this endeavor. Chia may know better, because he more recently contacted her, but perhaps not. But back to the point, he's an example of how difficult splitting can be. But there is little I'm willing to say is impossible.

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2008-04-09 19:46
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To the best of my experience, yes, it is entirely possible for a soul, under the proper circumstances, to fracture and become two or more entities separate from one another.
The unfortunate case I refer to is that of a boy I knew in high school, we'll call him Chris. To make a very long story short, I came to love the very parts of him that he wanted to get rid of. He hated me, and he hated the part of himself that I loved. At the time, I was experimenting with psychic vampirism. What I *didn't* know is that my mind is (or was) a lot stronger than the average practitioner's. So there was a pulling force (me) on part of his soul, and a pushing force (him) on the same part. I don't doubt that he probably sat alone in his room, dissociating that part of his soul from himself.
Finally, in what seemed to me a very planned-out event on his part, he transferred the dissociated fragment into me, and blocked all memory of ever having it from his conscious mind. I didn't figure out what had happened until a year or two later, when I became aware of a personality in me that didn't seem to "fit" with my other personalities. It didn't share memory with me, it didn't identify with any of the "normal" archetypes I have for myself, and it didn't seem to have any awareness of me. Now, it does (to an extent) but I think he is confused...I've talked to the people who used to be involved with this and figured out that there's no chance of him ever rejoining with the rest of himself. So I'm stuck wondering what to do with it.

EDIT: Just as an afterthought...I find it kind of ironic how he used to be obsessed with Soul Reaver. <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->
2008-05-08 20:46
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As someone whose true form(s) are all split from what used to be a single soul, I will say it is possible for a soul to split. However, I will say that my knowledge of the various forms does coincide with what Terro says... to an extent. It seems that characteristics were put into 3 "baskets" and whatever didn't make a full being was either copied from another of the resulting souls or is integrated with something that's the complete opposite (perhaps aspects one didn't like about oneself?). The characteristics include personality traits, tendencies and metaphysical ability.

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2008-05-13 3:48
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Re: Split Souls
I believe it's most certainly possible for souls to split.

The Egyptians had the concept of a fractured ka; many believed that if you had some sort of mental disorder, it was because your spirit was fractured. Shamanic cultures had the concept of either multiple parts to the self, multiple souls, that could get separated out; or a broken/split/shattered soul, where shards of the self could go missing or separate out and cause any number of psychological and physical ills. Look into the idea of soul retrievals.

I personally believe that there's a mundane counterpart to every metaphysical phenomenon, and vice-versa. So when someone experiences extreme trauma and dissociates--I think it makes perfect sense that the extreme trauma fractures their spirit/soul/energetic self as well.

It's not either/or, in my opinion... it's both/and. Just because I can give a psychology explanation for just about everything I experience doesn't mean there aren't also valid spiritual/energetic things happening.

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2008-05-13 15:53
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Re: Split Souls
Splitting, yes. We've got some of that in our system, with the original humans.

Re-merging, yes. It's called integration. The multiplicity-positive crowd tends to be wary of it, if not outright hostile, but it happens. It's got its pros and cons.

We believe that the soul is more of a quality, a being-ness, than an object. So, like water, it can flow into one container or ten containers. The water in the ten containers can be mixed with different fluids (i.e. different experiences), then poured into one container, to form a single mixture in which each of the contaminants is more dilute than it was in the separate containers.

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2008-08-03 6:33
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I hope souls can split, else where did I come from? lol

My original soul was an Angelic who was very... war like. He split into a more pure form of his angelic self, his darker impulses who became a Demon, and me (or at least the shadow they left behind that would become me later). I still have a connection (I have some of their memories from after the split) but I am a separate being.
They've become so different from what they were that it would be nigh on impossible to reconnect them. Plus I like existing as a sentient being <!-- s:mrgreen: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt=":mrgreen:" title="Mr. Green" /><!-- s:mrgreen: --> .

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2008-08-04 10:33
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Re: Split Souls
SoulWalker, do you miss the other parts that used to be you, feel a gap as it were, or do you feel like a complete and whole person?

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2008-08-04 17:06
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