WolfVanZandt Wrote:That's where I can't make the popular opinion of what was going on in Genesis 6 jive with Genesis 6.
I've looked at the passage from every angle I could find, including analyzing the Hebrew and I can't make the offspring of the "son's of God" be the Nephilim. There are two groups mentioned. The "men of renoun" and the "Nephilim" and the words and grammar of Genesis 6 seem very clearly to point to the men of renoun as the offspring of the angels and human women.
Scientifically, there's one creature that can fit the bill as the offspring of the angels and women, It's the only nonhuman hominid known that can produce biologically viable offspring with humans, and that's Neanderthal.
Really it's an unpopular, or more precisely uncommon opinion of Genesis 6.
What is preventing you from linking the groups? The Nephilim ended up under various names, some performed heroic deeds, were the men of great strength, and the various tribes. "It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth- when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring." It's a complete thought. Though more information does appear, and is more clear in extra-Biblical texts.
Scientifically your idea falls flat on some many points. I'll stick with the obvious one that's on topic though. Neanderthals while of a more solid build were essentially the same height as contemporaneous humans, the Nephilim are always described as being a lot taller than normal people, to the point that some translations (that I hate) actually just call them giants. Even if you ignore that, the other descriptions don't really match up either.
Varka, you bring up a good point, I'd add some forms of Hinduism to the list, even more mystic forms of Christianity and Judaism. I would argue Buddhism though, while we can perceive it as a notion of Godhead, and I'll admit, I do, as it is a non-theistic or atheistic religion depending on the vehicle, and some pantheism, the notion of being Godhead doesn't match up in a lot of cases.
Acta non Verba, I have to say, I really like your notion of Nephilim and the attempt to undo/prevent prophecy. While I've never considered such a thing, there is actually some interesting theological implications and support for that. If I don't do my temple retreat before next semester, I may end up toying around with this idea...