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Otherkin of the Draconic Sort
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Otherkin of the Draconic Sort
[I might want to go back and edit it since its been awhile and i might have stuff to add or clean up, but here's the original]


Let me get a few false misconceptions out of the way before I start hitting at the heart of my expose:

First off, dragons are not mindless, shiny obsessed monsters. They actually have something called taste, preferring things for their value. It just so happens that a lot of valuable things are shiny, especially gold and silver in the medieval era which the most common type of dragons are depicted in.
It doesn’t matter how much shinier a cubic zirconia looks; a dragon is going to want the diamond. Just like a Lionel train collector would pass over a newer and prettier train made in Taiwan for an original Lionel train in good condition any day of the week. It’s the value, not the look.

Secondly, not all dragons are pyromaniacs. Some don’t even breathe fire in the first place. This notion of people thinking dragons run around burning anything that crosses their path is far different from the fact that a breath weapon is a tool for self defence and practical tasks.

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The draconic soul is now as it always was and for that reason, a dragon has always been a dragon throughout existence. A dragon simply cannot be otherwise. However, a dragon can be anything it wants to be. Thus, to an extent, it can imitate the abilities and powers of almost any other being. These can range from shape and appearance (there are several myths where Dragons went among man or other beasts in disguise), spell casting and a plethora of other habits and specialties that dragons may come across and find interesting or useful. This can make it rather difficult to actually identify draconic souls; however there are some traits which can be recognized in them.

Draconic souls have a very uniquely distinctive aura. Therefore the aura of a dragon otherkin can appear as an abnormally large mass of energy, filling or sometimes exceeding the room size. Concerning the profile, the aura may appear shaped vaguely as a dragon of myth or have no discernable shape at all. Also, the naturally high amount of energy dragons emit can make them a magnet for supernatural and paranormal activity. As a result, unusual activities tend to plague dragons wherever they go, making it rarely dull with one about.

If myths and legends are to be believed to an extent, a draconic soul is usually an old one which may carry secrets of time and space. This allows for the potential of having, not only the ability to use great power, but an age old wisdom and knowledge of it. It can be further theorized that this is why most who claim draconic souls also claim an innate ability or attraction to magick and the occult. Thus giving them to use and understand magickal and other metaphysical subjects. For example, dragons can be considered telepathic and/or empathetic as well as possess several other natural psionic talents.

As with all Otherkin, there is no guarantee that one who may bear draconic past lives will awaken. Those who do are further not guaranteed to accept this possibility and may reject it still. Meanwhile, the few that do awaken and accept, will most likely not recall very much of their powers and wisdom from ages past.

So within a human body and having the abilities of the human brain, most dragons that ‘awaken’ often have or already had a strong interest in or are magick practitioners, occult members, psychics, and or witches. According to my own experiences and the opinions of others I have conversed with, many dragons often find typical magickal methods trapping or cumbersome and within a short time may develop their own way of practicing it. Their newly developed methods are as idiosyncratic as the person and the task at hand. For dragons, understanding and exploring another way to accomplish a goal can be just as important to their practice even if these methods are not as effective as time honoured traditions. This is very common of dragons that pride wisdom and knowledge which is most often dragons of Eastern mythology.

Draconic otherkin may be likely to enjoy learning and associating with people, and may have a tendency to seem childish at times, yet rather wise during others. In regards to age, young dragons are often flighty and given to suspicion, mistrust, obsessions, flights of fancy, spontaneity and foolishness. Older dragons meanwhile, come across as being wiser, quieter, much more sure of themselves, and content (keep in mind that these are extremes and at very opposite ends of the spectrum).

Bear in mind, some of these characteristics can be affected based on the body they were born into and the gene line that it came from (so this is very generic). Also, not all dragons are on the same level, so power, specialties, attributes, psychic abilities, magickal potency, and, of chores, knowledge levels will vary. Thus making it difficult to find universal traits which all draconic kindred share.

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I'd like to challenge a few things, having been around dragon boards, being a dragon myself, and having a great many draconic friends:

Dragons are not mindless:

This depends entirely on the species. Some who identify as dragons had a reasoning capability no higher than that of a smart dog.

Dragon souls always dragon souls:

Before I lived as a shinoar, I lived as a wolf/baboon/thingy. I was still just a 'soul' then. Then I had my shinoar lifetime(s) and now my Self is a shinoar and the soul identifies as shinoar rather than just 'soul'.

Unusual aura:

Mmmmn... nu. And same for the vast majority of dragons I know. The only oddity to mine is that it flows and looks rather like a lava-lamp, color wise. And the color is green with highlights/accents of either silver-blue to saphire blue or pale lavender to royal purple.



I think the problem is that you definition of dragon is very strict and very vague at the same time. There are so many different *species* of dragon, that universal traits are pretty much entirely impossible. The only even vaguely "universal" thing I've been able to note is a thick, muscular tail. Beyond that, you have dragons that could not use magic at all, no matter what their age ( *raises hand*), and those who used it every day. You have tiny and huge dragons. You have sapient and non-sapient. You have hide/fur/scales, wings(feathered/bat-like/insect-like)/no wings, horns/no horns, 6 limbs/4 limbs/8 limbs/more, etc. Is there a clarifier that could be done at the begining, detailing what you are refering to when you say 'dragon' in this?
2008-01-13 9:20
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Quote:I'd like to challenge a few things, having been around dragon boards, being a dragon myself, and having a great many draconic friends:

Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate knowing from others views where I’m going right or veering off course by a good state.

Dragons are not mindless:
Quote:This depends entirely on the species. Some who identify as dragons had a reasoning capability no higher than that of a smart dog.

From here I’m more in regards to the souls of dragons which reincarnated (more specifically the ones who recognize it). I feel that a mindless being does not have the capacity to realize they in a new body and thus project past memories or feelings threw and into the new life. Even so, while small dogs aren’t smart, they still have a mind and thus the capacity to use it (more with a mind then being less of one, really).
So here I was more trying to quell a legendary stereotype that proclaims dragons are nothing more then walking volcanoes.

Dragon souls always dragon souls:
Quote:Before I lived as a shinoar, I lived as a wolf/baboon/thingy. I was still just a 'soul' then. Then I had my shinoar lifetime(s) and now my Self is a shinoar and the soul identifies as shinoar rather than just 'soul'.

I have personally been under the impression that while yes, you have lives other lives and as other things, your soul is the soul of which it was. I am clearly a human now, but I don’t consider my soul to be ½ human and ½ dragon.
From what it comes down to, I feel the draconic soul is as it always was, while being various other things along the way and that at the end of the day (or life) a dragon is what one is left with.
From discussions with others this has also been a similar case with them. But if the statement continues to be more controversial then mainstream I’ll probably cut it out of this.

Unusual aura:
Quote:Mmmmn... nu. And same for the vast majority of dragons I know. The only oddity to mine is that it flows and looks rather like a lava-lamp, color wise. And the color is green with highlights/accents of either silver-blue to saphire blue or pale lavender to royal purple.

That sure sounds unusual to me.
I may be deaf as a busted hearing aid but I have an alright eye when it comes to auras (as much as one can honestly think they can, anyway). A lot of otherkin in general of peculiar auras, specifically dragon otherkin in that those auras nearly never match up to how auras are for the most part perceived when it comes to others. So from what I perceived I have seen and/or what others have told me that they have perceived they have seen, that’s where I’m pulling that tid bit. So again, this is all controversial stuff that can neither be truly proven or unproven at this time.
Maybe I should add the side not at the bottom of “from my experience, of course”


Quote:I think the problem is that you definition of dragon is very strict and very vague at the same time. There are so many different *species* of dragon, that universal traits are pretty much entirely impossible. The only even vaguely "universal" thing I've been able to note is a thick, muscular tail. Beyond that, you have dragons that could not use magic at all, no matter what their age ( *raises hand*), and those who used it every day. You have tiny and huge dragons. You have sapient and non-sapient. You have hide/fur/scales, wings(feathered/bat-like/insect-like)/no wings, horns/no horns, 6 limbs/4 limbs/8 limbs/more, etc. Is there a clarifier that could be done at the begining, detailing what you are refering to when you say 'dragon' in this?

Being strict and vague was my best starting point when handling this write-up. I can’t be vague about something I feel so strongly about, but I can’t be strict either since none of this has any true backing or grounds to stand on besides my flimsy “tee hee, I feel this way” trampoline floor. I was going for an all/partial encompassing excerpt that can be relatable to my draconic peers about on the web.

Thus far you’re the first to come forward and take issue with my statements. For that I thank you since I appreciate learning from mistakes as well as giving myself further initiative/reason to stick up for the statements I have made.

I’ll see what I can come up with as far as a classification of sorts. But basically what I was trying to encompass was something so broad it can’t cover everything while trying to be strict about what it managed to go over. But I apparently couldn’t help trying, so there you have that.

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chaitea Wrote:Dragons are not mindless:
Quote:This depends entirely on the species. Some who identify as dragons had a reasoning capability no higher than that of a smart dog.

From here I’m more in regards to the souls of dragons which reincarnated (more specifically the ones who recognize it). I feel that a mindless being does not have the capacity to realize they in a new body and thus project past memories or feelings threw and into the new life. Even so, while small dogs aren’t smart, they still have a mind and thus the capacity to use it (more with a mind then being less of one, really).
So here I was more trying to quell a legendary stereotype that proclaims dragons are nothing more then walking volcanoes.

While that is an important point, there WERE some out there who were like that indeed. I know at least 1 dragon that was not sapient, yet still remembers. After all, if people can remember being wolves, horses, cats, hawks, what-have-you, a non-sapient dragon can remember being a non-sapient dragon. My wolf/baboon lifetime wasn't sapient. I still remember it though. By intelligence I was refering to the capacity of the mind of the current or previous physical form. A soul is a soul is a soul, and is consciousness.

Quote:Dragon souls always dragon souls:
Quote:Before I lived as a shinoar, I lived as a wolf/baboon/thingy. I was still just a 'soul' then. Then I had my shinoar lifetime(s) and now my Self is a shinoar and the soul identifies as shinoar rather than just 'soul'.

I have personally been under the impression that while yes, you have lives other lives and as other things, your soul is the soul of which it was. I am clearly a human now, but I don’t consider my soul to be ½ human and ½ dragon.
From what it comes down to, I feel the draconic soul is as it always was, while being various other things along the way and that at the end of the day (or life) a dragon is what one is left with.
From discussions with others this has also been a similar case with them. But if the statement continues to be more controversial then mainstream I’ll probably cut it out of this.

I've also encountered others who were like myself. There may very well be souls that are differentiated from the start. But there are also souls like I was where we are like stem cells. It takes something about a particular lifetime to trigger differentiation. Thus, the woon lifetime and any other lives I lead did not lead my soul to differentiate into a 'type', but the shinoar lifetime(s) did.

Quote:Unusual aura:
Quote:Mmmmn... nu. And same for the vast majority of dragons I know. The only oddity to mine is that it flows and looks rather like a lava-lamp, color wise. And the color is green with highlights/accents of either silver-blue to saphire blue or pale lavender to royal purple.

That sure sounds unusual to me.
I may be deaf as a busted hearing aid but I have an alright eye when it comes to auras (as much as one can honestly think they can, anyway). A lot of otherkin in general of peculiar auras, specifically dragon otherkin in that those auras nearly never match up to how auras are for the most part perceived when it comes to others. So from what I perceived I have seen and/or what others have told me that they have perceived they have seen, that’s where I’m pulling that tid bit. So again, this is all controversial stuff that can neither be truly proven or unproven at this time.
Maybe I should add the side not at the bottom of “from my experience, of course”

Mine is admittedly fairly wonky, but it seems that many other people are wonky in the same way. When you get a significant number, it ceases to be "unusual". In fact, even among normal humans I've noticed that the traditional idea of energy circulation often isn't that common. An aura with moving colors isn't unusual at all. Colors flaring like moving fractals is a bit unsual, yes, but over all that's a tiny quirk.


Quote:Being strict and vague was my best starting point when handling this write-up. I can’t be vague about something I feel so strongly about, but I can’t be strict either since none of this has any true backing or grounds to stand on besides my flimsy “tee hee, I feel this way” trampoline floor. I was going for an all/partial encompassing excerpt that can be relatable to my draconic peers about on the web.

Thus far you’re the first to come forward and take issue with my statements. For that I thank you since I appreciate learning from mistakes as well as giving myself further initiative/reason to stick up for the statements I have made.

I’ll see what I can come up with as far as a classification of sorts. But basically what I was trying to encompass was something so broad it can’t cover everything while trying to be strict about what it managed to go over. But I apparently couldn’t help trying, so there you have that.

I've noticed on various forums that people rarely point out any inconsistencies to a- be nice, b- because they don't have any better ideas, c- because they have no clue to begin with and like to be *told* things, and d- feel that if they nitpick, then they might get nit-picked back. This leads to silence and to fluff. It is nearly impossible for something to be truly relatable to draconic 'peers' because it's like trying to relate to a tree in many cases. We are all just so *very* different and there's so very very many ways things work in the world. My statements come from personal experience, the experiences of those similar to me, and my observations of certain key things (particularly draconic anatomy, my biggest pet peeve EVAR). And some of those, like my way of grounding during energy work, are vastly different from what everyone else does. Their way works, but so does mine, so that means that *both* are possible. The same goes with dragons. Many will have "weird" auras, but many will have 'normal' as well. Many will be draconic from day 1, many will be like how I was, etc etc.


*edited because I can't type to save my own life
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