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Otherkin Social Classes?
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Otherkin Social Classes?
I recently discovered that a "Weaver" is not actually a kin type but more along the lines of a job, profession, or social class. If this is in fact true, what other social classes could there be? Could some kin, who are confused about thier kin status, simply be blending this social status with thier kin type, as I did? What could other social statuses could there possibly be in the vastness that is otherkin?

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2008-01-21 2:55
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That is really interesting!
I dont think, with my kin-type, it'd be as much an issue. But that is a very interesting topic.
I could see it potentially coming up with various kinds of fae or elves, where there's a particular job associated with a particular kin type, and someone assuming they are a certain kind of kin because of that job.

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2008-01-21 3:53
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sennagray Wrote:That is really interesting!
I dont think, with my kin-type, it'd be as much an issue. But that is a very interesting topic.
I could see it potentially coming up with various kinds of fae or elves, where there's a particular job associated with a particular kin type, and someone assuming they are a certain kind of kin because of that job.

Possibly, though even in wolf packs, everyone has a job <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink --> sometimes those jobs change though. I'm just thinking it would clear up a lot of kin confusion, and should probably be explored more. Its especially pressing for me, as an angel, as I don't know what my job is/was and it does bother me. Is my job to spread and change the energy I come into contact with in the name of the greater good of others? Dunno but it should would explain some things.

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2008-01-21 4:08
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Re: Otherkin Social Classes?
I believe the social classes would come mainly from the society in which the being originates.

The wolf pack is a good example or typical pack animal organization. This is mainly organized by personality type.

Angels is up to contention, I like to look at it in a perspective of military hierarchy. The organization of Choirs and purposes as written in most cases seems to operate largely as a military and support staff.

Dragons don't seem to be organized, most texts and myths portray Dragons as being rather ungregarious towards one another.

Everything else, not so sure of, especially Elves, God help me I will never quite figure them out.

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2008-01-21 4:19
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The millitary angle makes sence for angels but I see that as the "Warrior class" if you will. That would be an angelic social class (while I agree that all angels are warriors if called to fight, I don't think that was every angel's job all the time.) Another possible angelic class could be "Artizen" or "Messneger" which are broad terms encompasing jobs of many types. I'm not sure how I landed "weaver" though. I think that might fall under the "Artizen" catagory.

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2008-01-21 4:28
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In my first life, I was a watcher. That was my job, but that was also what I was. Nothing else fits in my mind (I played with "celestial" for a bit before deciding that it wasn't right, and anything else would be far off the point)

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2008-01-21 4:34
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Demons don't really have any structure. It'd be kind of weird, in my opinion.

Trying to make demons organize into any sort of social structure / job class / military ranking would bring about mass insanity and confusion... and lots of amusing sitcom-like situations XD
2008-01-21 4:42
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Instant problem with this idea:

Elven Princess syndrome.

People are going to be creating spiffier and 'powerfuller' job titles, because in the younger community it no longer seems good enough to be simply one thing. One must have been a wolf/tiger/angel/demon/elf/dragon/faerie princess/toaster/waffle iron to be truly "unique". *bites the fluffies*

Social class also implies superiority and inferiority based on nothing more than accident of birth. It promotes the whole "might makes right" idea. As one of the few "peasantry"-types, seeing Queens of this and Princes of that is already annoying. Adding in cosmic societal classifications will just make it worse.

Purpose or job title would be a much better way to go about it, because at least with a job you can rise up the ranks with enough effort. It also drastically lacks that implied superiority.


To further address the topic, I think that for some yes, the job/class could cause some confusion, but it would have to be typically with things that are not already fairly well understood here on earth. I doubt someone is going to claim to be "shaman'kin"... because they're saying right there that they were a shaman... but a shaman what? If you were thinking "weaver", but not with a loom, that word suddenly has a connotation not commonly known, and therefore easy to confuse 'job' with 'species'.
2008-01-21 9:27
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-Therians have their respective pecking orders.
-Angelics have the perfect, original, INTENDED government that cannot be used here on earth...which trying to comprehend can make you dizzy.
-Fae and elves...i could be wrong but isn't it division by clans, and then age/job, commune style?
-Vampires, Dragons, Demons, and the more violently inclined types of Kin may develop a definite "might means right" aspect, though further away from order than pecking orders, depending on the species. (i suspect dragon's have used this, but it eventually became pecking orders, and finally clans and age/job)

i definitely think that all kin separate themselves from one another, not only into small groups (clans, choirs, packs, etc.) but also into a social ladder of some sort. be they The Biggest B.A In Town, or The Creator Who Made Said B.A, there will always be those who lead and those who follow...because order demands that there must always be one who will stand up and start acting first, upon all opposing sides.

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Vantalus Wrote:-Therians have their respective pecking orders.
-Angelics have the perfect, original, INTENDED government that cannot be used here on earth...which trying to comprehend can make you dizzy.
-Fae and elves...i could be wrong but isn't it division by clans, and then age/job, commune style?
-Vampires, Dragons, Demons, and the more violently inclined types of Kin may develop a definite "might means right" aspect, though further away from order than pecking orders, depending on the species. (i suspect dragon's have used this, but it eventually became pecking orders, and finally clans and age/job)

i definitely think that all kin separate themselves from one another, not only into small groups (clans, choirs, packs, etc.) but also into a social ladder of some sort. be they The Biggest B.A In Town, or The Creator Who Made Said B.A, there will always be those who lead and those who follow...because order demands that there must always be one who will stand up and start acting first, upon all opposing sides.
About Faes and Elves -- I suppose it would depend on the type of Fae and Elves... I'm not Elven-kin but I've seen them talk about it in a way that seems like there IS some division.

I don't think Demons actually have that big of a community-sense. In some types I see why there would be hierarchies, but for the most part they're highly chaotic beings and hierarchies just wouldn't go with that. From what I've seen, however, they DO seem to have different "roles", if this makes sense.

I'd think Weavers were an actual kin-type, as their role is highly important when regarding them.

But, yes, I suppose the existance (or lack) of social classes highly depends on the kin type and even whithin those I assume there can be lots of sub-divisions. For example, a Wolf therian might feel like they belong to a certain pack and have a certain role, but on the other hand a snake therian probably won't. Likewise, certain kin types tend to be on the strong-community-sense side (i.e. Angelics), while others might not have that big of a sense of community (i.e. Demons -- I'm just recalling a post that existed on OKA a while back, I think it was Kahoku who posted it, and it discussed how demons don't have a community sense as strong as, say, dragons).
2008-01-21 12:19
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