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All right, I have been on this forum entirely too long today. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

Anyhow...I'm having some thoughts on Mist, who I brought up the other night in a different entry. I actually copied some of that entry over and have it in another window...I'm thinking I have some good hits as to this being a core self. Thing is, I'm not entirely sure exactly why, which is why I started this thread. I have fleeting "visions" -- not really visions but concepts -- but they disappear as soon as they arrive. I've been trying to record them, but I haven't been fast enough.

If past experience is any indicator, these thoughts should be becoming stronger and more lasting over the coming days, and will soon enough become permanent...if I can keep myself from being caught up with tangents.

The concept of mist, though...to be honest it's something that stuck with me from the time I was speaking with Archer about the formation of energy beings. It's also something which I can find a hit on in the phrase, "condensate of spirit," which I used earlier...though I'd have to look up exactly where. It may be in a response to that Lego analogy. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile --> Soul as condensate of spirit. Spirit is vapor, everywhere, invisible. Soul is mist and dew and rain and snow. Little bits of spirit clinging to each other. Visible. Concrete.

Water. Fluid. Shifting, all the time. As the identities I've been clinging to. But it isn't the form which is me. It's the water -- that of which the form is made, not the form itself.

The metaphor fits with the concept of all life being made up of a plurality of little tiny souls, which is something I picked up from both Estelore via Ender's Game still haven't read that though, sorry, and from Shinto, which is an essentially animistic belief system.

Chordal Wrote:Mist is the distribution of water (in air...), the atomization of it, which becomes many things and is breathed out again. In essence, it's potential.
Water is in all biological life -- that we know of, at least -- but is identified with none of it. It makes it possible for biological life to exist. Plants pull it up through their roots and exhale it. The exhalations are vapor, the vapor becomes mist, the mist becomes rain, the rain is drinked again. XD (the conjugation is appearing that way in my mind, sorry. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->)

As this. The body makes it possible for the spirits to experience life.

Conscious connection of the two metaphors isn't happening right now, sorry. Better to leave it than to risk misunderstanding.

The power visualization:
If the true self is a beam of light extending horizontally; and the being one presently is, is a stream of water shooting horizontally; power comes from aligning that stream with the light, for as far as you can cause it to continue, without falling away.

The depth visualization:
The mind as an ocean; the surface of the ocean for as far as one can see is consciousness. The position of the swimmer at the surface is one's ego. Below the surface is subconsciousness. As one goes further down it becomes darker, until we reach unconsciousness in the abyss.

The shimmering visualization:
Chordal (from December 2009) Wrote:The water is the physical substrate -- the body. The light is what could be called for lack of a better word, pure spirit. The phenomena that forms at the surface where the two meet is what is seen as myself. The eye that sees the sparkling light is the observer. Trying to pin down the source of the pattern of sparkling will get nowhere, because the water is always moving, from differing influences, and in fact no two flashes will be the same.
Where to go from here? Is it water itself that I'm identified with, or water as mist? Hmm.

Chordal (from early May 2011) Wrote:It feels unnatural to be stuck in one form.
The largest problem that I can see this fixing...is the gender identity portion, and concomitantly the "identifying with others" portion. I'm not sure if I said this here before, but I have a small bit of a problem with being unable to discern the thoughts and feelings of others from my own. Hence, when surrounded by transmen...I tend to identify that way. Surrounded by women, I tend to (partially) identify that way (the identification just doesn't extend to the degree it often does with female-bodied men).

Heh. One down?
2011-05-31 2:21
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