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Memories vs. Imagination
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Memories vs. Imagination
I have always been stuck on how to tell the difference between the two (concerning my kinship {no worries kids, just cause I fantasize about ruling the world doesn’t mean I think I did so in a past life, or what not }), to the point that I usually just stick ‘em all under the “my fantasies” category. Sure some of them have a different feel then others, but I usually attribute that with how some are more emotionally invoking then others (much like how a very imagined nightmare can still scare you).

Overall, I don’t like calling anything pertaining to my possible life as a dragon ‘memories’ because they very well might not be. But in either case, I still have them. I just don’t know what to think of them.


So how do you tell the difference? Or do you just not?
Either way, what do you do about what you know/what you think you know?

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2008-04-18 10:22
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Re: Memories vs. Imagination
I just stick with my 'gut feeling', hence why I don't have many memories (especially concerning my existence as a Leanan Sidhe). I would definitely be interested in knowing this, however.
2008-04-18 10:26
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Re: Memories vs. Imagination
For me it basically comes down to which ones "feel real" and which don't...I know that's mad subjective....I also notice that my memories often repeat and add to themselves and my imagined things tend to stay the same, or change. *shrug* I'm not sure there's any real definitive way of knowing.

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2008-04-18 14:43
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Re: Memories vs. Imagination
I've actually thought about this many many times... I have a very vivid and detailed imagination, because I've studied people closely all my life I'm very good at creating personalities (heh my old GM's always loved my charecters, they always commented on how they were so fleshed out they sounded like real people). But this leads me to doubt all my past life memories.. after all I'm fully capable of making it all up -.-

I try to go by how it feels... when I create a charecter I start with a basic concept and slowly flesh it out over time. Now what I beleive are my past lives don't come to me in that way, they usualy start as a fragment. Something in this life sparks a deja vu feeling so I try to grab onto that feeling and explore it, then I usually get a brief memory fragment like myself playing some sort of harp or lute in front of a group of oddly dressed people (this was a real past life exploration for me). The more I explore it the more fragments and details come to me until *pop* the flood gates open and and it all comes together... well mostly, I never remember any life to great detail, most are just a collection of fragments that fit together.

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2008-04-18 15:05
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Re: Memories vs. Imagination
I wonder this all the time. I have a tendency to stick them all under the imagination category, no matter how real they feel. If they feel just to real, I'll put them under "possible memories". I don't have a memory section for past lives...

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2008-04-18 15:48
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I tend to just load them under fantasy as well. What I do "remember" is soo small and fragmented its the only thing I hld as a possibility but other facts that float into my brain I tend to just mark them off as fantasy.

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2008-04-18 16:20
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oops I just realized I only answered one question <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->

What do I do with these memories... I try to take them as lessons, for example in the one I mentioned before about the lute player (I'm thinking I was some sort of welsh musician during the dark ages in that one) I was born with seemingly everything, I was handsome and charismatic (I had my pick of women for the most part), I was multitalented (I was a talented musician with many noble courts bidding against each other to get me to play for them and a master swordsman) everything I touched I excelled at.

But I wasn't happy, after many years of fame and fortune I increasingly started seeing it as empty and shallow. An arrogance, self loathing and bitterness slowly grew within me, this grew into hatred... no friend seemed to like me for me, no lover loved the real me they just loved my good looks, talent and fame. I became terribly lonely and took out my negitive emotions on those around me, I would purposely offend men to the point they would try to duel me which I always won, usually by utterly humiliating them, some I would corner in some dark alley and kill...

During this time I tried to drown my woes in liquior, I drank increasing amounts until I no longer played and couldn't even raise myself from the bottle to start a fight... my last memory fragment of that life was lying on the floor of a filthy pub in a pool of my own vomit, blood and urine feeling the life slowly drain from me and not caring...

I took from this life a lesson of the shallowness of fame and fortune, that being 'born with everything' is not a free ticket to happiness... I seek my happiness in my own way now.

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2008-04-18 16:26
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Looksfar Wrote:oops I just realized I only answered one question <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->

What do I do with these memories... I try to take them as lessons

Same here <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink --> emphasis on TRY though <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
2008-04-18 16:37
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Re: Memories vs. Imagination
So how do you tell the difference? Or do you just not?
Either way, what do you do about what you know/what you think you know?

My mind works in images and patters so there aren't any real differences between "imaginations" and "memories" other than sensations and how well I am able to manipulate them. Memories "do" feel different than things merely made up within my head but not different enough for me to rule out the possibility that I'm remembering older imaginations and/or simulating the experience so the solution isn't just "going by feel" for me.
There's also the fact that "gut feeling" and all that is so highly subjective and so easily manipulated, not just by the person having it but also by others, that it just isn't in any way reliable.
So all that is tempered by documentation and research. I write down everything I remember the first time I remember it. I used to do this on the computer but learned the hard way that computer crashes do not improve my accuracy. Research is good for something as it can be done on every kintype. Most recently I found a knife as well as documentation of the knife, and it's origin, which I had previously remembered, and it happened to be trace-able to my kintype. This, to me, makes my rememberance of my past life more likely to contain some accuracy what so ever as there is actual documentations.
I've looked into some of my human past lives as well, looking for some reinforcement of things that which I remember, and many of my memories of eras have turned out correct.
I do check against movies as well mind you..
When my memories turn out to be inconsistant to documentations of the era/events/whatever, or turn out to match a movie better than historical documentation, then I chalk 'em down false.
I would rather disregard a memory that "might" be true than carry with me utter illusions.
All in all though, I do not focus on the past enough to disregard the persent at all though.

I think that about sums it up.

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2008-04-18 18:17
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Re: Memories vs. Imagination
chaitea Wrote:So how do you tell the difference? Or do you just not?
Either way, what do you do about what you know/what you think you know?


the ones i claim as memories usually have some sort of strong emotional or physical feel to them. and i don't mean, oh that really sad and makes me cry...i'm mean i have gut wrenching reaction to them. some of my memories in this life i have to remind myself that no i didn't make that up, i really lived through that, no matter how much i don't want to remember it. some memories i have physical reactions too, not just those in this life but those in the past. the ones i'm most leary about are the ones that come in my dreams....a lot of the time my dreams will reflect things that could have happened but did not. so i usually have to think/meditate on them when i don't recognize in the very beginning that it did not happen.

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