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Maybe the community is scaring off potential newcomers...
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Post: #21
Re: Maybe the community is scaring off potential newcomers...
The definition by which otherkin are labeled by those who have never encountered it. I do believe Spanky (I can hardly type that without a smile, why Spanky?) is far of base in suggesting that others who may be seeking understanding may be turned off by the widespread definition.
I happened to like your definition, as it is something that the scientific community and people who are like minded can accepted as it has very little mystical or spiritual connotation. However the use of the word "believe" should not be omitted as new science especially is finding that this is the only way to say something, regarding findings as current belief rather than fact for instance.
2008-03-29 4:20
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Post: #22
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Vercingetorael Wrote:I can hardly type that without a smile, why Spanky?
Most otherkin name themselves something that sounds like what they are- maybe some word gotten during a meditation, or a combination and wordplay on existing names or words. This name generally has a deep significant meaning to the Other...

However, I would prefer something that sticks <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->
2008-03-29 7:07
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Post: #23
Re: Maybe the community is scaring off potential newcomers...
Vercingetorael Wrote:The definition by which otherkin are labeled by those who have never encountered it.

I fail to see how a slogan on a website will affect that in any way.

Now, if you could get all the MySpace idiotkin to just sit at home and listen to bad music, like troubled kids did back in the day, then THAT might have a positive effect on the perception the public at large have of otherkin. But alas, I don't think it will happen.

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2008-03-29 12:54
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Post: #24
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I think that we have a pretty good handle on what we are as a community - any one of us could come up with a definition which 75% of us will love and 25% of us will debate endlessly. I think that if there's a problem here it may be a problem of how we explain ourselves to non-kin. We could just go around talking about unicorn-kin or gryphon-kin, or we could start slow, get them comfortable with our ideas about souls, and then work from there.

I don't think we're scaring anyone off. I think anyone who is kin shouldn't be scared by descriptions of most otherkin. And I think anyone who's not kin has to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, and with words and connections that they already understand (ex, relating "soul" to "belief") - if educating non-kin about otherkin is even something anyone's passionate about.
2008-04-04 2:05
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Post: #25
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I don't think we'll ever come up with an end-all definition. It's like mercy or love or justice. They're difficult words to pin a definition to, but we all know what each of those things are, human or otherwise. Because we all know the concept of them through experience. So why not just say: "We believe that we are different. In most cases, we do not believe that we are superior to everyone else because of it, and we, as a whole, do not support those that do. If you want to learn about how we believe we are different, then talk and share a conversation with us. Then make your own opinion on what kin-ness is."

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2008-04-04 2:18
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RosaleenBan Wrote:I think that we have a pretty good handle on what we are as a community - any one of us could come up with a definition which 75% of us will love and 25% of us will debate endlessly. I think that if there's a problem here it may be a problem of how we explain ourselves to non-kin. We could just go around talking about unicorn-kin or gryphon-kin, or we could start slow, get them comfortable with our ideas about souls, and then work from there.

And all of the above is an issue for each individual to decide for themselves in how they deal with people, rather than for this message board to sit and work out a way of interacting en masse with the outside world.

That way lies madness, drama, and a lot of pointless headaches.

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2008-04-07 13:58
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Post: #27
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I'm not going to elaborate a lot since I am slightly sleepy, but generally I just define otherkin as "people who consider themselves something other than human". It's simple, easy, does the job -- and won't scare off newcomers but it won't completely convey a wrong idea, either. It's broad enough to be comfortable and narrow enough to allow people to be curious if they will and research about it.
2008-04-15 22:04
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