Feral Wrote:Meh, it is a harder thing to accept.
Is this a personal acceptance that you speak of, or an acceptance from others? If it's a difficult truth to accept on the personal level, I would venture that this is potentially false - it seems easier for a person to attach their personality into an archetype (of which Lucifer counts), than find their personal truth. It's easier to be the knight, the rebel, even if the archetype is one of confusion, misunderstanding and hate is directed towards.
Quote: Perhaps someone can debunk of confirm the thought.
However, it seems your concept of Lucifer is based off of your personal perceptions, and so anything others can offer you would be based on their experiences. To me this seems to be a bit of a logical contradiction - it is easy to debunk misinformation about a myth, magic system, animal, etc. It is harder to debunk or confirm things based off of personal belief.
Quote:If but it was research I would worry.
Then why ask/try to find out so much about other people's perceptions of Lucifer?
Quote:I feel it is inaccurate and wrong to say I believe; I do not believe, I know.
One could argue, and in my world-view, everything beyond "I think therefore I am" is "belief". To explain, we have to assume that our senses tell us the truth about the world, assumption is a form of belief, etc. But, this difference is hardly something that really matters. To say "I believe the sky is blue" and "I know the sky is blue" does not really make a heap of difference. What does, is your reasoning for this knowledge or belief. Share it, please?
Quote:If my reasoning was built on such shaky ground then yes, I would agree.
Not sure what you mean on this one. If one does some research on the title "Morning Star" one finds that there's a high probability that it was taken from another culture (Greek), which was not an uncommon practice for Christianity. Further to this, the mention of Morning Star within the bible makes no clear reference that it is Lucifer - but rather, seems just as likely that it was/is a reference to Jesus instead.
Quote:"proof/reason to believe" denotes belief does it not?
Denotes belief based on logical reasoning at least.
Quote:As for why I do not offer "proof", it is not mine to give. Would you trust any "proof" I could provide?
Yes, if it was reasonably logical on how one arrived at this conclusion. It's interesting that you feel inclined to share what you perceive as Your
identity, but the reasoning for why you "know" this is not yours to share.
Quote:As for your request for reasons and proof my apologies, I have no desire to debate.
Quote:*shrug* I wish to find truth...
Seem to be of opposing ends. Call it what you will, but the pursuit of truth is always based off of questioning. We look almost anything and this is self evident - philosophers have debated against each other for centuries over what is and is not, what is truth. Science, law, psychology, maths even. Something is questioned, answered, requestioned, re-examined, answered, etc, and once we seem settled on an answer it seems something else pops up to negate the answer we had. To seek truth, is to be part of this process.
Quote:I am not here to prove to (generic) you whom I am; You are more than free to think I am out of my mind. I stated whom I am simply to give a context and perspective to my words.
Would you explain how being Lucifer lends any added context, weight, perspective to your words than anyone else?