Vibes Wrote:the thing is, its not just down to what i believe.....im just not sure if it was down to belief then i would be in so much pain
its not my belief...
Belief is what we have for things we can not "prove".
If this is not belief, then you should have proof to back up your claim.
Can you objectively prove this?
If not, then this is belief. Not fact.
Vibes Wrote:ive done everything to avoid it...to reject it...and have seen others who reject it as well...but it all comes down to the same thing....an orange can be cut in half and will spend its duration believing it is half now.....but when one reaches the end of this "time" one realises that you part of this whole all along
The mention of others in this context appears to be an attempt to make your beliefs more valid.
An argument from numbers is not reliable.
Millions of people can be wrong. Just cause others share your experience, does not make your experience objectively true.
When an orange is cut in half, it is cut in half.
If it weren't cut in in half, it wouldn't be cut in half.
A half orange is not the same thing as a whole orange.
No one is suggesting you reject your beliefs. The point is that by suggesting your beliefs are universally applicable and objectively true, you are placing your beliefs on to others.
If you can not objectively prove your beliefs, you have no right to suggest your beliefs apply to others and doing so is rude, at best.
It would be equally true if anyone else did it.
For example, if a die-hard-atheist were to come into the forum and assert as a fact that you, or I, or any one of us, did not have a soul, then they would be equally rude, no more, no less, to you when you stated in a factual manner that your beliefs apply to anyone other than you.
Vibes Wrote:back to me...my pain is due to the fact that i have this underlying thing for some reason yet i have to live in this body for some reason...i dont know why but all im trying to do is get it..just get it
Perhaps your hyperfocus is a fair part of your pain, as has been suggested before.
A lot of otherkin related "suffering" is a matter of self fulfilling prophecy.
If you see your life as punishment or imprisonment or some other sort of token of suffering, then you'll suffer even greater than all others around you, from utterly predictable, mundane tasks.
In fact, you may start seeking out negative experiences in order to validate your beliefs.
Vibes Wrote:for you..you have your own path...which is great, but being a part of the overall whole is something you have the luxury to deny...i dont, which is what im trying to figure out
The way this is written is to continue the aforementioned rude gesture of applying your belief on others.
I do not have "the luxury" to deny your beliefs. Your beliefs do not apply to me.
I have spent a long time on my personal path of self exploration and the exploration of my own beliefs.
I have had more, reliable, outside confirmation of my personal beliefs than most otherkin can dream of.
No singular divine being has ever been part of this belief.
It has never applied to me.
Vibes Wrote:i think i should also say, given your depreciation of replies, that should you wish to talk to me in private about anything then i welcome it
"given the depreciation"?
Do you actually mean to state, "given the decreasing value" of my replies?
I don't converse in private messages. If I have something to say, I say it where it can be heard. I am perhaps a little too honest and a little too open for the tastes of some but it's merely who I am.