General opening for starters

wondered how active this forum is..saw a comment say "wow 4 pages in one night, not sure if i can keep up with this"...ive been to forums that had double that in hour per thread across 8 sub forums....i lack patience to wait

if this is a slow moving forum (albeit some parts have been read in interest) could you possibly recommend a faster paced one...and i will keep an eye on this one at the same time

apart from discussing what qualities one may have or may not have...or feel an affinity towards...can anyone tell me if there are any beings out there who live in more than one world, who have others come here to pull them into the next, see through humans and find what is hiding in them (not all humans i would add), see everything in this world as distinctly linear and finally (but not exhaustively), extremely f***king aggitated that they made a wrong turn and ended up here?

thanks in advance

this forum hasn't been incredibly active lately, it comes and goes... sometimes there's more activity, sometimes less. the fastest moving otherkin forum i know is otherkin.com but i don't know if it will be fast enough for you if you check back every 5 minutes. i wish i had that much time...

Sorry, after the comment about how this forum doesn't seem perfect for you and how you wanted members of this forum to recommend one that might be more to your liking, I fell asleep and forgot to read the rest of your post. Must be that slow pace!

hehe love it ...thanks for the replies...i do love a bit of sass

thanks for pointing the way to another forum similar to this, time has never really been an issue to me..just to others because i fail to keep it

ive read some of your stuff, you both give off pretty strong vibrations..i like it (not that that should mean anything really, but thought i should put it out there)

i hope to speak to you both about something more specific in the future, if either one takes an interest

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I check this forum maybe 3-5 times a day...
yes, I'm that boring.

Vibes Wrote:can anyone tell me if there are any beings out there who live in more than one world, who have others come here to pull them into the next, see through humans and find what is hiding in them (not all humans i would add), see everything in this world as distinctly linear and finally (but not exhaustively), extremely f***king aggitated that they made a wrong turn and ended up here?

I'm not entirely sure I understand exactly what the question is.

I do know that "yes" there are beings that live in more than one world... maybe not "at a time" but yeah...
I mean Rakshasa have their own little "Pocket plane" if one could call it such, and tend to "travel" a bit. (At least if I understand it correctly.)

I'm not sure what the point about linearity is supposed to refer to...

And yeah, I'm sure there's some things 'round that don't wanna be around. But, meh.. there's more than one way to "leave".

Miniar Wrote:I check this forum maybe 3-5 times a day...
yes, I'm that boring.

Vibes Wrote:can anyone tell me if there are any beings out there who live in more than one world, who have others come here to pull them into the next, see through humans and find what is hiding in them (not all humans i would add), see everything in this world as distinctly linear and finally (but not exhaustively), extremely f***king aggitated that they made a wrong turn and ended up here?

I'm not entirely sure I understand exactly what the question is.

I do know that "yes" there are beings that live in more than one world... maybe not "at a time" but yeah...
I mean Rakshasa have their own little "Pocket plane" if one could call it such, and tend to "travel" a bit. (At least if I understand it correctly.)

I'm not sure what the point about linearity is supposed to refer to...

And yeah, I'm sure there's some things 'round that don't wanna be around. But, meh.. there's more than one way to "leave".

nice to meet you too miniar...i wouldnt say boring, just efficient

yeh i can see the ambiguity now....which engulfs everyone of us eh

right, lets see if i can get this bad boy off to a good start....this world is linear (time/space), the parallel arena is non linear (no time/space)..do you think one can live between the two? or do you (you general, not you specific as i dont want you to think im singling you out) believe that an essence/soul/traveller can only "be" within one arena at any one time

linear is perhaps a personal "idea", apologies

and about taking the wrong turn...could it be possible that this soul/essence finds its way into a human body for the first time and finds it difficult to live as human which in turn causes the human vessel much pain? i havent read anything here to suggest anything other than comfort with human form but awareness (vague or absolute) of soul as non human

Personally I don't think the universe is bound by space and time, but I agree with your idea about a "soul" not meaning to be here, but ends up here anyway.

ah yes, of course...but as a human you wouldnt deny the existence of day to day living (on a micro level) based on time - seconds, hours, weeks, years, light years etc.....

it could be argued that we (humans) are naturally chaotic in our makeup and the imposition of time construct (for survival), order, has created a simultaneous distancing and reaching out to realms we were a part of prior

i dont know...i just think linear processing may have alot to answer for when dealing with certain subject matter..such as essences finding human life difficult

just exploring some thoughts...may or may not lead to anything..part of the fun

perhaps?

Personally, I think that time is relative. Seems to me that the only beings concerned with time are those that can die. They have a need to keep track. Time doesn't mean a heck of a lot on a grander scale to me. Maybe it's just how I am, maybe it's because angels don't give a hoot about it. The world may never know.

I do think that souls "end up" incarnated as humans for whatever reason. However, I'm also of the belief that the "pain" it causes depends on how you as a currently human being decide to deal with currently being human. You can learn to cope, even enjoy it...or you can loathe it and make your life suck. Your choice. Free will's a bitch isn't it?

All forums wax and wane with respect to activity. A forum is only as active as its members. Want this place to be more active? Post some stuff.

I on the other hand don't believe in the existence of "time" as a standalone object or concept.
What I do believe in is causality.

As in; The only "time" that exists is now. (Tomorrow does not exist, and neither does yesterday, these are hypothetical concepts that shall never be physical reality.) That now is constantly in a state of flux, and has changed drastically as I write this post on various levels. (Tomorrow is a hypothetical version of now that does not and will never exist. What we call tomorrow will never be "now", because if it were "now", we'd call it "Today". And Yesterday does not and will never physically exist. All yesterday is, is a remembered version of "now" when now has changed sufficiently to leave only the memory of the previous version.)
Those changes are in accordance with causality. As in, they have a cause and an effect.

As such, I do not believe that there is such a thing as a space that exists outside of time, as there is no such thing as existing within time, as there is no "time". Time is a concept we use to express causality. What we call 3 o'clock merely refers to "when the sun and planets of our solar system has completed the required amount of movement/change in position to reach that position". So I still use the word time, I simply use it to refer to causal things.

I do not believe that there is such a thing as a space that exists outside of causality either.
(When I move my fingers across the keyboard, it is within the confines of causality. Every word written is caused by fingers pressing the keyboard, which is caused by muscle movements directing the finger, which is caused by my brain directing the finger, which is caused by my mind's decision as to what to write, which is caused by my reaction to your post, which is caused by my personal experiences and understandings as well as by the contents of your post.. I could go on longer for hours.)
If there is no causality, there are no reasons and no reactions. No cause, and No effect.

The way I see it, and have come to understand it...
Space is not nearly as relative a concept.
Physical space is for physical objects. If an object or a being is physical, then it takes up physical space. If we were to attempt to place it somewhere where no physical space existed, then logically either a) the being will cease to exist, or b) we will not be able to put it there.
Data/information takes space as well. As such, if no space exists to accommodate it, the same will apply.
Spiritual, or non-corporeal entities, are compatible to data in this sense.

Without space, nothing can exist within the "not space", because the "not space" does not accommodate anything within it. There simply isn't any space for anything within it.

So, no I do not believe that beings can exist in a place where there is no space and no time, as I do not believe such a space can be considered to "exist" even if it did, technically, exist.

Secondly, I do not believe something can exist in more than one place at a time. If a being exists in place number 1, then the causal path that would take it from 1 to place number 2 requires it to leave 1, at least to some extent. It can not exist "equally" in both places.
I don't object terribly to the idea that a soul or spirit can split itself in half to inhabit more than one body, but then we can't really say that the same entity is in two places at once either.
See, if I take an orange, and cut it in half, than neither half of the orange is "the orange". It's "half of the orange". That's not the same thing. (oversimplified explanation)

I do however think it's perfectly possible for an incarnated entity, in a human body, to find life as a human difficult for any number of reasons. Many humans, or entities that have lived hundreds of human lives, find human life difficult.
I myself have my problems with it, and I have been here a while.
Do I think it's because of linearity? No.