Re: Falling during incarnation?
Man it has been a while since I bit into one o' these!
From my personal beliefs on this topic, one that I have approached... no. Flat out, no.
Consider a time that you are drunk, you are hammered, completely and entirely blacked out, barely know your own name let alone who is there with you. In the morning you wake up, with that pounding headache, and say "The hell did I do last night."
This can be similar to incarnation.
Now, in that scenario, you can be responsible for things, if you go around smashing windows in your drunken stupor, find me a judge that will slam the gavel and say "charges cleared, you were drunk." So in that case, having a knock down drag out break down and swearing that you oppose the Creator would stick, except for this...
As an incarnate Angel, you do not have the capability to actually cause any outward effects. Imagine now that you are in this drunken stupor, while locked in a padded room without the ability to harm it, or yourself. What crimes could you cause?
You can make decisions because of your lack of knowledge on the subject, and say things that are hurtful, and your friends may hold those against you.
As an Angel, if this happens, you get back out of the incarnation, back upstairs, the others have a recap of just what happened. There is the moment of truth. If you facepalm and say, "wow, what was I thinking?" you can very well atone, however, the answer of (with now your full knowledge, faculties and capabilities) of "you know what, I was right, and it took that separate perspective to realize it, forget you guys, I'm out."
That is the way I see it. You can't really Fall, because to Fall requires and absolute knowledgable decision here and now when it is made. The seeds may be sown, but that is it.
My further personal belief is this (again, this is personal, and based on the analogy listed above)... To actively pursue such, believing you are an Angel, and believing you are making a lasting decision to go against your Creator is naive, it is irresponsible and it is arrogant. It is about as good a decision as being in that drunken stupor and thinking that it is a really good idea to get a whole sleeve of really embarrassing and pointless tattoos.
You are attempting to make a lasting and huge decision without (most likely) even 1% of the surrounding knowledge or experience that you should consider before even thinking about such a currently irreversible decision. Not to mention the nature of the Creator and actual service while here is most likely influenced by the simple views of mortal Humans reading out of a book translated how many hundreds of times and more often than not changing it to fit their own personal views/agenda.
Feel free to respond by the way in whatever manner you like. I know I haven't been around for a while, I never, ever mean to offend anyone (like the above personal belief, it is entirely about such a decision, not about you personally. I barely know you, just going off the idea of such a decision in general), but I do try and be as clear as I can be in my belief. I also have no ego that I am aware of, so even an answer of "Hey Terro, thanks for that but I think you're an idiot and here's why" is totally fine, actually it would be fun for me.
The maximum effective range of an excuse is zero meters.
-The Unit
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