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Elaborate 'Kin Backgrounds
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Elaborate 'Kin Backgrounds
Ok, I'd recently put up some, in my opinion, fairly annoying questions in the threads of several other members who'd put up elaborate backgrounds for their kin-type. I figured I owed it to at least them to explain why, and I figured my reasons may make for a decent discussion, anyway, so I'm posting it here. I think this is the proper forum for it, if not I'm sure Kahoku can correct the location of this thread. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Alright, the questions that I kept posting were something along the lines of:

Xanthus Wrote:Disclaimer: This is blatant copypasta from other posts I've made - but it's the exact same content either way, so I'm not re-typing it.

Not meaning any offense, but I general tend towards a little more scrutiny of kin with extensive and elaborate backstory of their kintype.
  • How did you find all this information?[/*:m]
  • Did you check this information in any way for accuracy, and if so, how?[/*:m]
  • How many memories related to this information have you had yourself, and under what circumstances did you remember/uncover them?[/*:m]
  • How much of this was related to you by another person?[/*:m][/list:u]

    Hope the questions don't bother you. <!-- sSad --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- sSad -->

    Note: this does not constitute me calling you a fluff in any way. I am actually and honestly interested in answers to these questions.

So, why do I want to know this? For several reasons:
  • Sources of information often have information about more than one thing[/*:m]
  • Sources of information sometimes fit a pattern that will enable you to find other information sources[/*:m]
  • Context of information is often as important as the information itself[/*:m]
  • I'm interested in things regarding past-life memories and how/why/when they uncover themselves.[/*:m][/list:u]

    As someone still unsure of any specific kintype, but only sure of 'kinship' to kin in general in terms of common experiences and feelings, I feel that finding out more from kin who claim to have specific or extensive (or both) knowledge of their kintype could help me by showing me either places to look for information, showing what TYPES of places to look for information and showing me their proccess in how they discovered and self-verified their kinship.

    Certainly, not just me, but any newly awakened (though, after 8 years of searching for myself, I don't know if 'newly' is the right term...) could benefit from this sort of insight. And not just those who are unsure, but even those who, though sure, simply may want more information about their background.

    On top of this, many stories that one would easily take at face value become entirely different animals when viewed in light of their context, so context for these things is important, in my opinion.

    Lastly, I don't know individual views here on past lives, other dimensions or anything of the sort, but overall, I, at least, am interested discovering 'causes' of otherkin, such as past lives. So any information regarding past life memories in very interesting to me. Though, I was already interested in such before even knowing about otherkin.

    I hope this sheds a little light on why I've been posting annoying questions, maybe even making the questions themselves a bit less annoying.

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2008-01-14 19:30
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Those are very good questions to ask. I'm glad someone did it, because I just don't have the guts to do it; I probably wouldn't have the good sense to put in the disclaimer that I'm not calling somebody a fluff, either.

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2008-01-14 21:12
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I think, if someone's actually just a fluff, that sort of thing will usually become evident on it's own, soon enough, no need to go badgering people to try to 'proove' that they are a fluff.

Besides, I kind of have been re-evaluting what I believe and what I've experienced and realized that a lot of it is pretty 'out-there' by common standards. So, just because someone has a fleshed-out background, imho isn't a good reason to just assume they're a fluffy off the bat.

Just my 2 cents.

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2008-01-14 21:23
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I think we all have our moments of fluff, but its all part of the process. Sometimes we need others to ask hard questions, it helps us all grow.

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2008-01-14 21:26
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I think that asking questions in general are always a good thing. It can be an annoyance but it's still the best kind there is. And your questions are not only valid but also really very good.
Debating and questioning what one "knows" can either bring you a better understanding or new information/realisation. If you're willing to be asked that is. If not then you need the questions for other reasons.
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2008-01-14 22:38
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Xanthus Wrote:I think, if someone's actually just a fluff, that sort of thing will usually become evident on it's own, soon enough, no need to go badgering people to try to 'proove' that they are a fluff.

Besides, I kind of have been re-evaluting what I believe and what I've experienced and realized that a lot of it is pretty 'out-there' by common standards. So, just because someone has a fleshed-out background, imho isn't a good reason to just assume they're a fluffy off the bat.

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, true . . . usually, fluffs "out" themselves as fluffs before anyone else even gets a chance to.

As for more fleshed-out backgrounds, I suppose it depends on how they come by the information they have. If it's explicitly or almost explicitly through memory, at least without having these memories corroborated by someone else, then it could potentially be suspect -- simply because memory is not the most reliable thing by any means. I remember things in this lifetime that never happened according to everyone else I've talked to.

For another example, in the past, I've come across one now rather infamous example of wishkin -- you know, the kind that gives the rest of us a bad name -- who was very public about her supposed "kinship" on LJ and other places. It was fleshed out with excruciating detail, all of which she "remembered" through meditation or "daydreaming"/basically pulling what she wanted to believe out of her rear. It was very sad -- not only because she vastly overestimated her talents and abilities, couldn't answer the hard questions to save her life, and had a husband and bunch of friends who believed her every word and kissed the ground she walked on; but mostly because she seemed to believe it all herself.

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2008-01-15 0:18
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Xanthus Wrote:Ok, I'd recently put up some, in my opinion, fairly annoying questions in the threads of several other members who'd put up elaborate backgrounds for their kin-type. I figured I owed it to at least them to explain why, and I figured my reasons may make for a decent discussion, anyway, so I'm posting it here. I think this is the proper forum for it, if not I'm sure Kahoku can correct the location of this thread. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

I thought the questions to be very valid and not annoying.

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2008-01-15 5:35
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Personally, I am very glad you asked those questions. Its not often I get to "tell my story" as it were and it makes me feel more welcome as a member in general knowing that someone actually gives a crap about who I am and where I came from <!-- sBig Grin --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- sBig Grin -->

So thankies Xanthus <!-- sBig Grin --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- sBig Grin -->

*evil grin* wouldn't you like to know

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2008-01-15 6:13
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You mean I didn't annoy people by asking questions? That's never happened before...

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2008-01-15 6:53
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Another good question to ask yourself is: Can my beliefs be considered culturally appropreated because of natural affinty or selfish desire? That's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to otherkin.

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2008-01-15 18:43
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