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Dragons and the furry community
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Dragons and the furry community
*puts on flame retardant suit*

Alright. In talking with some other dragons and "branching out", so to speak, I've found that opinions of the furry (or in this case, scaly) subculture tend to be highly varied. Some avoid it like the plague, others are somewhat immersed in it, yet more consider it an extension of their draconity.
So, these are the questions I pose to you:

1.) What are your opinions on the furry subculture? How do you view them?
2.) If you had to guess, why do you think people with the opposite opinion of yours think that way?

Me, I tend to avoid furries. I am a dragon, and don't need to roleplay as such. I don't mind people being familiar with the subculture, but I do try to clarify on what is a "fursona" and what is them. As for why people tend to hold the opposite opinion...I suppose that acting as a dragon, dressing like a dragon, and RPing as a dragon is the logical "next step" from believing that one is a dragon.

Thoughts? Opinions? Rage?

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2008-01-15 3:03
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Re: Dragons and the furry community
The way I see it is: What is the point in having scales that only encumber you, fangs that don't cut through human flesh, wings that don't get you airborn, and a tail that furthers your problems balancing?

Acting like a dragon is just something I do naturally at times, usually through growls and half-roars when I'm in a dangerous or painful situation. And I don't RP as a dragon any more often than most other species.

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2008-01-15 3:28
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Re: Dragons and the furry community
Normal furries I'm fine with, and I'm friends with several. If I did ever create a 'fursona' it would be a female version of my puppy, if for no other reason than I think he is the most unique and beautiful dog in the world (not biased....). Furverts, however, scare the bujeebus out of me. The people who take it 'too far' I'm kind of 'meh' about, though I do hold a very distinct line in my head between totem/choice and otherkin, both of whom can show up in the "taken it too far" group.


I find those dragons who purposefully take on extravagant 'draconic' behavious annoying to no end. Yes, I growl, but then I grew up around dogs. Yes, I hiss, but then I work around cats. Even the other techs and the vets hiss sometimes. But do I try to walk on all fours? Do I speak in a 'dragon language"? Do I say "hooman"? No. Because such actions are *stupid*, at least in a public setting. In private I walk on hands and feet as a limbering exercise (or when going up stairs) because I get a lot of back strain. However, you'd *never* catch me doing something like that in front of another person.

One's draconity is a *private* thing. Doing so in public is as tacky as the giant crosses/pentagrams/whatever people sometimes wear. Just as I don't want random persons a, b, and x coming up and spouting off their religions (no matter what religion), nor would I care to be near someone who was perching on the back of a bench/roaring/clawing at something. I'd think they were beyond weird and *leave* as quickly as I could.
2008-01-15 3:29
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Rauthiss Wrote:1.) What are your opinions on the furry subculture? How do you view them?
2.) If you had to guess, why do you think people with the opposite opinion of yours think that way?

1. I do know a few furries, and may occasionaly draw stuff others might consider 'furry', though I don't consider myself one, nor do I roleplay or do fursuiting. So it depends; If they can act decent around me and actually provide conversation like on art and such, and not treat me as just another thing to 'roleplay' with, then they're good with me. Otherwise, the moment they try and get past my 'online personal bubble', they're history. I know the subculture isn't full of creeps, they're just the most noticeable to 'normal' people. There's a number of amazing furry artists, though, and they seem to be pretty cool people. There's also a lot of joking and snark about 'furry drama', but seriously, what group doesn't have drama?

2. I think the reason why people have the opposite opinion of me is because all they ever see is the sex-obsessed and freaky fetishists of the subculture. They don't even think of the possibility that there are other furries who are a bit closer to normal, and proceed to form their opinion on a whole subculture based only on a few that they see.
2008-01-15 5:19
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I thought it would more be dragons and the yiffy community, but I guess that’s just looking into it much further then anyone should ever (I’ll be nice if your into it, but that don’t mean I’m gonna respect it). I guess after that coment you can tell where I stand when it comes to furry conventions (outside and with a nuke)

As for others who think differently then myself, I’d guess it’s either their fetish or they have a ‘letting go’ complex. Yeah, ya’ll don’t got them wings no more, but there cardboard and pain aint gonna do a damn thing ta bring bone and scales back.

The fetish part, so long as they don’t take it to a whole new level of creepy (especially around me) go have fun. Just know that if you ever try to get me into a crotchless animal suite (that ain’t a fancy fur coat) I will certainly succeed in ending you.

Oh, and never show me the pictures of “One time, at the furry convention…”
You will most likely be ended for that as well.

Golly gee wiz, I’ve gotten tolerant since high school.

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2008-01-16 14:13
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chaitea Wrote:I thought it would more be dragons and the yiffy community, but I guess that’s just looking into it much further then anyone should ever (I’ll be nice if your into it, but that don’t mean I’m gonna respect it). I guess after that coment you can tell where I stand when it comes to furry conventions (outside and with a nuke)

As for others who think differently then myself, I’d guess it’s either their fetish or they have a ‘letting go’ complex. Yeah, ya’ll don’t got them wings no more, but there cardboard and pain aint gonna do a damn thing ta bring bone and scales back.

The fetish part, so long as they don’t take it to a whole new level of creepy (especially around me) go have fun. Just know that if you ever try to get me into a crotchless animal suite (that ain’t a fancy fur coat) I will certainly succeed in ending you.

Oh, and never show me the pictures of “One time, at the furry convention…”
You will most likely be ended for that as well.

Golly gee wiz, I’ve gotten tolerant since high school.

Can i join you with the nuke thing XD

I am not overly fond of the whole furry idea, I may rp my dragon self sometimes in the sense of what a furry does but I do not consider myself a furry.
But i do not care what others believe as long as they don't mock mine.
2008-01-16 14:20
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1.) What are your opinions on the furry subculture? How do you view them?

I am in part a furry, I don't see what the big deal is. there are extremists in every fetish or sub culture, you don't see furries blowing up buildings or killing people in the name of the mighty fur, so I don't see why people have such a problem with them/us. No I'm not a fur suiter, no I don't like intercourse in fur suits, but I do like furry art, so sue me.

2.) If you had to guess, why do you think people with the opposite opinion of yours think that way?

Because everyone needs something to put down in order to make themselves feel better.

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2008-01-19 17:19
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Prince Wrote:2.) If you had to guess, why do you think people with the opposite opinion of yours think that way?

Because everyone needs something to put down in order to make themselves feel better.

<!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt=":x" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> Perhaps you could describe the point in furriness for those of us who apparantly feel glee in knocking other people down? Besides the possibility of the public humiliation of all dragons by a really overdone costume, that's my main problem with the idea.

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2008-01-19 17:52
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Deros Wrote:
Prince Wrote:2.) If you had to guess, why do you think people with the opposite opinion of yours think that way?

Because everyone needs something to put down in order to make themselves feel better.

<!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt=":x" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> Perhaps you could describe the point in furriness for those of us who apparantly feel glee in knocking other people down? Besides the possibility of the public humiliation of all dragons by a really overdone costume, that's my main problem with the idea.

Thanks for proving my point by throwing an insult in there. Why are costumes so offensive? Some people who create scale suits do it becuase they like dragons that much, I was even thinking of making a dragon suit of my own fursona Temujin. Does puff the magic dragon offend you too? How about "dragon riders" or Erigon? How about balloon floats or simple dragon haloween costumes? Dragons are in pop culture whether you or any other dragon likes it or not, I don't see why flurries don't have a right to use the image just like anyone else does. Besides most of the hard core fur suiters are FURRIES as in dogs, wolves, foxes and etc. I've actually yet to see a dragon fur suit.

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2008-01-19 18:01
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Deros Wrote:
Prince Wrote:2.) If you had to guess, why do you think people with the opposite opinion of yours think that way?

Because everyone needs something to put down in order to make themselves feel better.

<!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt=":x" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> Perhaps you could describe the point in furriness for those of us who apparantly feel glee in knocking other people down? Besides the possibility of the public humiliation of all dragons by a really overdone costume, that's my main problem with the idea.

Thanks for proving my point by throwing an insult in there. Why are costumes so offensive? Some people who create scale suits do it becuase they like dragons that much, I was even thinking of making a dragon suit of my own fursona Temujin. Does puff the magic dragon offend you too? How about "dragon riders" or Erigon? How about balloon floats or simple dragon haloween costumes? Dragons are in pop culture whether you or any other dragon likes it or not, I don't see why flurries don't have a right to use the image just like anyone else does. Besides most of the hard core fur suiters are FURRIES as in dogs, wolves, foxes and etc. I've actually yet to see a dragon fur suit.

You've failed to answer my question (at least well), but I'll be happy to answer yours. Costumes in general are not offensive. While I do not necessarily like my current life, I understand that this is my life. It's not necessary to embarrass myself by putting on something that will never be close enough to who I was to bring back the necessary amount of nostalgia to really be worth it. Yes, Puff the magic dragon offends me, but then again, so does Dora the Explorer and Blue's Clues. Mostly because I'm slightly embarrassed to be interested in such things earlier in my life. The book Eragon does not offend me, because it is among the only pieces of literature to show what I believe dragons are. Balloon floats and halloween costumes only annoy me a tiny amount, because I understand that they are largely used in ignorance. I accept that dragons are in pop culture, it's just the idea that most dragons shown are either adorable or viscious that bugs me.

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2008-01-19 18:17
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