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Different Languages
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Different Languages
So, I've been doing some research and soul studying into the fact that I'm very likely a multiple. Reading around here has helped greatly in understanding, so thank you all of the multiples here already! <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

I do have some questions though, and I do appreciate any answers that people can give me greatly. As the situation looks it seems that I share this body with two headmates. One male and one female. The male I know a decent amount about. I know that he prefers the name Xavier, and that he is a vamp also of some sort. He appears to be in his late teens. The little I know about his origins is that he has apparently chosen to be here with me, and that he has been for some time. I think for the most part he seems to get my attention by taking enough of the front to make me growl under my breath. I don't think I've heard him ever speak more than three actual words. But it does seem to be moving in a positive direction.

The female, however, is where I ask for help though. I'm not very sure about her origin at all. I think she may be a split off of me from quite a few lifetimes ago. I think lol The little I know about her has been taken from the one time she fronted and from her singing. She sings quite well, I must say. It's quite pretty. But here's the problem of the situation..she doesn't speak English. To my knowledge she doesn't even understand it. Can anyone suggest I way I can communicate with her?

Also, I have naturally strong mental walls. Nothing gets through them basically. Could this be hindering communication?

Thank you again in advance!

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2009-01-02 6:46
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Re: Different Languages
Not sure about mental walls.

We do a lot of our communication by sending sensations, without words. If you see or otherwise sense the group of you in an inner world, pantomime works too.

Over the long term, focusing attention on particular things and thinking of the English word for them - as long as she's willing to learn the language, it sounds like she should be entirely capable of it.

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2009-01-02 7:42
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Mental walls and barriers mainly exist to keep things out. However, they can be used to compartmentalize a multiple system. Is there a reason you would feel you cant trust them, that you would have to protect yourself solely?

If you walls are meant to keep external influences out, it is very likely the language issue is more or less there because you think there should be. Sometimes we make things harder than they have to be because we think doing a thing should be difficult.

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2009-01-02 15:30
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As to the walls - maybe. I was locked behind a really thick wall, but it was designed more to prevent me from fronting and to keep me segregated. Communication with the others was possible, well, barring issues such as an utter lack of trust.... anyhow..... I would say it depends on structure and placement of the walls as to if they will prevent communication. Or certain forms of communication. Words are cool - english can be useful but we don't consider it cool. On bad days we consider it a mercantile thug language.
If you have noticed she sings well, music may be a way to communicate. I will pester Rain about that if you wish. But one does not always need words to communicate. And when one shares the same skull thought, images, shaped emotions can become a lot more useful. How does she try to communicate with you?

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2009-01-02 23:57
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Crud, I had a nice long reply back to everybody and my computer accidentally ate it. So, let's try this again lol

Shainin, I hadn't thought of trying that. It should logically work. As long as we can both be patient with each other through the whole learning process. I will definitely give it a try that! And, on the upside, even if it doesn't work in the long run, it gives the pair of us more experience with each other <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

Twilight: I'll think about that for sure. I know I myself have always had strong walls even against people I love completely. Though I will not rule out that those might be there through deep rooted reasons, such as experiences in a past life that I just don't remember yet.

As to trust with Xavier and the female, I think at first months ago I didn't trust either of them at all. Xavier didn't communicate with me at all then, all I knew about him was derived from the very strong cravings he had. The cravings are still very much a part of him to this point. Now though other parts of himself are starting to become clear, like the devotion he has to the people I hold close to myself. Right now I'm pretty comfortable with him being here with me. I know there was definitely less trust between me and the female. The first time she fronted was the first time I found out about her ever. She came through extremely angry and meaning to do damage to anybody she found. Needless to say, I haven't let her be at the front at all again until recently, and it's been months since that incident. She's calmed down considerably. So, hmm, it could be very well an issue of trust that has built up a wall stronger between me and her.

Carn: First of all, I love your description of the English language. It's very true lol I'm not that fond of the language myself, but it's the only one I know well enough to carry a meaningful conversation in XD

Her primary way to communicate with me is her own language. Sometimes feelings and images come attached to the words so I can understand what she means. I think they only do if she is consciously trying to make sure I understand. Like if she's angry (which she spent the first month or so of school much so when I was in crowded hallways) none of her images come through. The best way I can describe it is like having a ticked off foreigner yell really, really fast lol

Usually, with her language I understand her best when she's singing. Feelings, images, meaning comes through clearer then. So I can definitely use that to communicate with her. Certain songs make her sing almost no matter what without fail. She seems to be fond of Disturbed and then really soft songs lol If Rain would like to give any information that would be appreciated <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

The only other way I have known her to communicate is when she effects the body when I'm in control. Like tonight for example. Me and two of my very good friends were out driving around. She wasn't speaking at the time, but I could feel her and tell she was also conscious. As soon as the driver hit the gas again after that, she panicked. Her panic and fright effected the body enough to the point that I was shaking. Turns out, she's terrified of cars. I had no idea until she panicked tonight. XD

...apologies for the long post. I get talkative when I'm tired, and it's currently after two in the morning here. lol

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2009-01-03 7:15
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Oh my various gods, I didn't know if I was going to add a comment to this topic because the others seem to have covered it pretty well UNTIL I read that your headmate liked Disturbed. They are my all time favorite band and if their music helps you to communicate with her I suggest my all time favorite song by them. It's called Darkness. This song is amazing. It's the 12th track on their album Believe. Absolutely beautiful. See if that gets her singing. ^_^

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2009-01-07 6:53
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FangedWriter Wrote:Can anyone suggest I way I can communicate with her?

Absolutely - just don't use words.

Words are needed when two regular humans speak to each other as the only way to exchange information about complex ideas is to use auditory or visual signals. With multiples (or telepaths) there is no such limitation - you're inside the same brain and as such can communicate directly without needing to use symbols. So, just make like an energy being (for example) and communicate with her using selective, directed empathy.

She might not want to communicate back to you - but there's no reason why you need to use words.

thetwins Wrote:Words are cool - english can be useful but we don't consider it cool. On bad days we consider it a mercantile thug language.

All languages have practical roots. The reason why English is so effective for communication is partly those mercantile roots that have led to a huge amount of loanwords. That (among other things) is why English has such a huge vocabulary. It's very difficult to learn but to those fluent (sadly, I don't even think all native English speakers are completely fluent) it is flat out magnificent for communication. Which makes it cool.

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Crimsonmelody, I'm pretty sure I've heard that song <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile --> Knowing my brother I probably have and just not know it by name. Song names rarely stick with me. Her favorite from Disturbed seems to be Inside the Fire. It never seems to fail at pulling her attention my way. And tonight she basically used it as her theme song as she came close to the front to see what was going on lol

Archer, I think that is much of the case- she doesn't always want to communicate. It's nothing against me, for what I know, but she seems to be doing her own thing most of the time. Sometimes she's conscious and just watching everything that's going on out of curiosity without speaking a word. So she seems almost childlike in that sense. Which would direct communication far more effective. I'll try to make like an energy being for that lol <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

Thank you to everyone that's answered!

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If she doesn't want to communicate, that strikes me as a lot more important than what language she would form words in (without even going into the fact that internal communication doesn't require a jaw, mouth, vocal chords and tongue to produce sounds . . . or some very specific parts of the brain to produce words).

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Well, it seems that Carn has volunteered me to post here. And he has been poking at me to write ever since, it just hasn't happened. It almost did but almost posting is well.... not posting in the end run. But none of that is to the point.
There are a lot of really cool things about music and how the brain processes it when you hear it and when you play it back within your head. So I am curious, do you actually 'hear' her sing or do you just get the images, feelings etc that go with what she signs? And if you decide you want to use music as the path to communicate back, the best thing you can do is listen to a lot of music. And focus on it, listen to what the music is doing as it evokes images and emotions. This will be easier if you enjoy the musician and the style of music that you are listening to. And then, if the music conveys things you want it to, evokes images you want to use later - when the time comes see what happens if you play it or repeat it in your head....

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