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Devolution
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Devolution
Birds evolved from reptiles. I was hanging out with a guy who's angelkin the other day (fallen, haaaaaaaardcore fallen, if you knew him you'd get that vibe). I suddenly got an image of him......reptilian. I can't even describe it, I didn't get a full image, just a flash in my head that screamed "REPTILE". But, somehow it seemed linked to his "angelic" origins......
His wings are leathery, red. They turn purple when he gets really depressed/dark. I was wondering, has anyone else noticed this reptilian-energy phenomenon in angelkin they've encountered whom they consider "fallen"? Has anyone else ever thought about this "devolution" theory of mine which may occur as a result of being severed from a universal umbilical? My friend's also a psychic vampire.
2010-10-24 2:28
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Re: Devolution
perhaps you shouldn't take everything you see literally. the reptile image could be a symbol for something else.

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2010-10-24 8:53
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Re: Devolution
I second 'hoku. Angels, demons, energetic beings in general have no set form. Thus, how they appear often reflects how they feel, their personal preferences, their "job" function, etc. I've noticed that among the Judeo-Christian mythos crowd fallen angels and demons are often depicted as "devolved" and bordering on (or completely) grotesque when compared to the beautiful, feathered, angels on high with their bright halos and immaculate appearances.

However, when it boils down to it, it's all how you perceive it. As an angel (of the non Judeo-Christian variety mind you) I often have the leathery charcoal grey wing thing going, or some sort of hybrid feathery-leathery (fun to say) wings of the dark grey persuasion. I chalk it up to:

A. My liking it that way.
B. My function as some sort of angel of death.

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2010-10-24 12:43
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Re: Devolution
I have a, hmmm, a shadow "relative" who could be considered a fallen angel, in some respects.

His appearance, when he chooses to have one, is of a humanoid with leathery wings that are somewhat like bat wings, but more like pterodactyl etc. So there's a vaguely reptillian unpleasant angelic sort.

Now, that said, I don't think his wings are a result of a link to "lower" stages of evolution. After all, there's nothing inherantly superior over one stage of evolution than another - this isn't Star Trek, and it's not like evolution is a process with a goal in mind. It's just that whatever is alive at any given time is probably more stable and efficient than whatever else isn't.

If there is any link between scary reptile looking guys and being "fallen", I think it's a perceptual one. In that we humans here and now on Earth think of nice cuddly things like cats, dogs, lions, deer, badgers - mammals, basically - as being like us and understandable and empathic. Things like reptiles though, are further removed and have undertones of danger and alienness. I could see something "fallen" as appearing "alien" and "scary" and "different" to pretty much anything that had a look; an intelligent dinosaur might look at the same guy and go "Oh that's horrible, he has feathers!!!" etc.

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2010-10-25 1:29
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Re: Devolution
Let's play with words, a bit, eh?

"Seraph", biblical word for a sort of angel... two literal translations for the word:
1. burning
2. serpent (can qualify as snake, lizard, croc, you pick it... as long as it's scaley and crawly-on-the-belly and toothy)

My angels have eyes that appear to be serpentine (slit pupils) for all intents and purposes; their wings aren't feathers so much as very tiny, finely-interlocking, soft scales... like if you shrunk snakeskin down to butterfly-scale size, but kept the overall durability of the snakeskin. They're iridescent white with red and deep violet-black overtones. (Compare to the grackle bird: brown-black iridescent feathers with green and indigo overtones.)

In addition, their teeth are uniformly tapered to points, with no squared edges, and the proportions of their limbs are too long to seem 'human' to me, despite being the right number and placement of major appendages. They move like predators... if anything, I think 'viper' or 'deinonychus'. <!-- sTongue --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- sTongue -->

*shrug* I find them entirely more reptilian than humanoid.

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2010-10-30 2:23
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Hmmm, I still don't think it was symbolic.......I think energy forms can manifest themselves in forms that are sometimes as difficult to change as physical forms. However, on second thought, it may not be a devolution necessarily, I just felt the reptile thing was linked specifically to the angel thing (rather than, for example, a past life as a reptile or something).
I dunno. Another word that sprung to mind was....advanced. Like an advanced technology. Advanced mental capacities, advanced physical capacities (both of which he exhibits in life, far beyond the capabilities of any person I have met). The image in my mind seemed small somehow, a small lizard, but at a second glance, you felt that even though this thing was small.......it would whip you. The guy was curling 70 lb. dumbells by the time he was 18, but his arms were TINY. No thickness at all. It was freaky. He also learned how to play guitar by ear.......he was shredding along with Pantera cd's by age 14. Again, advanced. Also, his reflexes......I've seen him fight, he gets about 6 punches in in the time most people get two or three.
And as for evolution, I spoke to a psychologist once (not my shrink, just a guy who happened to be a psychologist). He told me that in the back of the human mind, there was a part that was called the "lizard brain", a fight or flight decision making part. It was one of our most primitive properties, the more complex stuff came later.
2010-11-04 0:59
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Re: Devolution
I echo Estelore to a degree.

I will also echo, to a degree, the issue of perception.

"reptilian" or "snake like" shows up in texts enough to be noteworthy. Enough that I warrant it is likely a common way the human mind perceives these spiritual things, rather than some kind of personal, totally subjective metaphor.
2010-11-05 18:29
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I sometimes take the form of a big winged gargoyle like creature in my dreams .
2010-11-08 5:20
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