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Definition of Angel?
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Definition of Angel?
I'm curious if there's a common consensus on what qualifies as an angel in the otherkin world.


How I grew up, the common idea of angels is:
* they are physically unable to disobey God & also unable to WANT to disobey (meaning there are no "fallen angels")
* there's a lot of diversity in how each one looks (not the stereotypical "beautiful human with white bird wings" thing), but they're often large & scary in their natural form
* they can make themselves invisible or to look like a human
* they're a separate creature than humans, thus it's not possible for a human to "become" an angel or vise versa

...so anything that does NOT fit that description wouldn't be considered an angel among the people I grew up with.

Different religions have different ideas of angels, so does each person just consider their own religion when they call themselves an angel? Or is it possible that you're not exactly an angel, but what you are is most similar to the standard idea of an angel?

Are there any angel-kin who DON'T attribute it to a spiritual cause?

Any angel-kin who don't believe in the existence of a deity?

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2022-11-21 4:32
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Rixem Wrote:How I grew up, the common idea of angels is:
* they are physically unable to disobey God & also unable to WANT to disobey (meaning there are no "fallen angels")
* there's a lot of diversity in how each one looks (not the stereotypical "beautiful human with white bird wings" thing), but they're often large & scary in their natural form
* they can make themselves invisible or to look like a human
* they're a separate creature than humans, thus it's not possible for a human to "become" an angel or vise versa

This seems specific to the Christian idea of an angel: Abrahamic angels.

Rixem Wrote:Or is it possible that you're not exactly an angel, but what you are is most similar to the standard idea of an angel?

The term for a non-Christian angel is just called a celestial.

As far as I'm aware, "angel" like how most Americans define it, are specifically the Christian ones.

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(2022-11-22 2:50)Elinox Wrote:  
Rixem Wrote:Or is it possible that you're not exactly an angel, but what you are is most similar to the standard idea of an angel?

The term for a non-Christian angel is just called a celestial.

As far as I'm aware, "angel" like how most Americans define it, are specifically the Christian ones.

It makes sense to separate "angel" from "celestial" then.
How would you know the difference between a celestial and an energy being though? Would a starseed be a celestial?

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RE: Definition of Angel?
(2022-11-22 4:57)Rixem Wrote:  How would you know the difference between a celestial and an energy being though? Would a starseed be a celestial?

Energy beings are entities made up of energy and don't necessarily have a set form, other than representing with a ball of light or electricity. Celestials, while not necessarily tied to a specific religion, often have a humanoid form with wings.

I'm not that familiar with starseeds, since they seem to be rare within the 'kin community. But from what I know of them, they're not celestials. Rather, they come from elsewhere (ie. not earth) and are often connected to a specific star or planet. I think starseeds may be another term for a specific type of alien.

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(2022-11-22 16:31)Elinox Wrote:  
(2022-11-22 4:57)Rixem Wrote:  How would you know the difference between a celestial and an energy being though? Would a starseed be a celestial?

Energy beings are entities made up of energy and don't necessarily have a set form, other than representing with a ball of light or electricity. Celestials, while not necessarily tied to a specific religion, often have a humanoid form with wings.

Ah, I see why there's overlap for me. How I grew up, angels are thought of as being made of light or energy rather than a humanoid with wings.

(2022-11-22 16:31)Elinox Wrote:  I'm not that familiar with starseeds, since they seem to be rare within the 'kin community. But from what I know of them, they're not celestials. Rather, they come from elsewhere (ie. not earth) and are often connected to a specific star or planet. I think starseeds may be another term for a specific type of alien.

I guess I was taking celestial more literally (as in "someone from the sky/space"). I'm surprised to hear starseeds are rare among otherkin. I can imagine reincarnation could be real & I can imagine there are people somewhere else in the universe, so starseeds don't seem too out-there.

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