Seraphyna Wrote:Here you're wrong. It is not a good idea to rely solely on a medium, because they aren't impartial. They expect to contact *something* so they will. Paranormal investigators are non-biased third parties that collect evidence and analyze it to see what it means. They don't go in with any preconceived notions and many call in mediums to see if their results can shine any new light on their evidence. Saying a medium is better than a paranormal investigator is like saying someone with X disease is better than a doctor when diagnosing themselves. Sure the person with the symptoms *might* have better insight, but the doctor will be able to tell exactly what's wrong and if it's a psychological placebo or a physical problem. The scientists are simply better suited if you want the "truth" of the situation.
I very strongly disagree.
If they're arrogant or misinformed, then yes, usually a medium will try to find something, rather than look around. Though, this is often on purpose, essentially since I recall one show where they took younger mediums to a haunted house, told them a ghost story outside and said things such as, "these spirits are strong and shouldn't be taken lightly" to scare them, and trick them into misreading for the sake of ratings.
And yes, the investigators are non-biased, but are reliant on their data to the point that they will call a place not haunted, even if there have been several encounters with multiple families and/or groups of people.
Quote:Except that isn't the same thing. Paranormal investigators have plenty of experience with spirits, etc. Just because they can't "talk" to them and understand them directly, does *not* mean that they aren't as good as someone who claims to be able to. In the spirit situation, neither party is a spirit or identifies as a spirit, so the two situations aren't the same...at all.
I have yet to see a paranormal investigation where they physically met ghosts, that wasn't made for ratings. And I don't mean where they have crew hiding around corners to scare them, I mean where they send them in with cameras, poke around the house, piss off whatever is there, as much as they can.
Quote:Yoherz Wrote:Most spirits I know do direct energy...manipulation, in order to have an effect on people.
And how do you know that they're spirits, and not something else or just constructs of your subconscious?
Well, I'm not insane, not have ever been accused of such. But yes, there's always that chance.
Then again, there's also the chance that your otherkin-ism is merely a figment of your imagination, or a "construct of your subconscious", hm?
Velvet Darkness Wrote:I don't trust mediums, most of them charge for their services and only get paid if they find something, so I could never be sure they're not making something up just to get their money.
Yeah, I don't trust ones that charge. If you can, find one that does it for free, since they're usually more trustworthy.
Velvet Darkness Wrote:It's a shame you had to rule out paranormal investigators though, they usually approach the subject in a scientific manner and even if they charge they get paid for their time not their results, so if they say they've found something you can be pretty sure it's there, and they'll probably have something for you to see or hear too, unlike mediums where you have to take their word for it.
Only times I've ever seen them get paid, was for gas money if they had to travel out of town.
Velvet Darkness Wrote:Apparitions (I'm not calling them ghostywosties, not even for a moderator) usually have a reason for appearing over and over. Yes it's possible that a ghost may be 'passing through', but unless you've opened a gateway for the dead in your room it's unlikely that the traffic you believe you are experiencing is a different ghost each time.
Not always. I've had spirits that passed through my own home before, completely unprovoked.
I've had another case of a friend of mine in the UK, where he had spirit-like beings traveling around his room aimlessly. Turned out someone else was unknowingly making them not three blocks away from him.
There have even been cases of a haunted house where a portal was already there, but was unused until a short while (about 2 weeks) before they had called both a medium and investigator.
JDRage Wrote:Well first off the last thing you want to do is contact a paranormal investigations group …it’s a waste of time and lets be honest , who really wants a bunch of amateur Ghostbusters jumping about their bedroom ?
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JDRage Wrote:Second up…so called professional mediums .
Listen I trained at the same place as one of the supposedly best mediums in the UK today , the second money or celebrity comes into it ….that’s it , game over , they’re about as reliable as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest .
Truth be told about 90% of so called professional mediums are ether deluded , corrupted or just simply fake.
Again, I prefer ones that do it for free.
If I wanted one that charges, I could go to a renaissance fair and talk to the gypsy there. Probably get better entertainment, too.
JDRage Wrote:However …do you know any psychic’s ? as friends or acquaintances ? If so you might want to consider asking them to see if they can in some way in making contact , but only if you truly feel you can trust them and the golden rule is never give any information , its their job to tell you not the other way around .
Excellent point.
Giving information to a medium can easily misguide them, or make them look for something specific, rather than simply looking around, as I mentioned earlier.
JDRage Wrote:If your going to go this alone ….tips.
Ok…you seem to be going alright with the dream route , so try focusing on that , before going to sleep ask these spirits to contact you …just speak out loud .
Have a note pad an pen nearby …
As soon as you awaken start writing whatever’s in your head or anything you remember .
A basic rule here is to take notes whenever possible .
Meditate and take naps in the room and always ask them to contact you and like I say take notes .
Dreams are actually an easy route to spirit contact and it’s a very common way for them to contact you .
Try this for a about a month , there’s no reason why it shouldn’t work so stick with this route first .
Nothing I can't agree with here.
Assuming they're trying to contact her, it would work.
If they're passing by....might not work as well, but she should at least get some information.