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Chakra Theory
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Chakra Theory
For those unfamiliar, the Chakras are allegedly a sort of "organ" or energy center of the Subtle/Spirit body.... The exact attributions and number of the chakras vary somewhat from system to system, however the standard Seven-Model used by humans does not fit me. Partly due to not seeming to have that number of major chakras, and partly due to the religious attributions to certain ones, which are not compatible with my..Theology? My question to the forum is, Do any of you subscribe to the chakra theory(or any variant thereof) and if so, what differences have you noticed between yourself and the "Standard Model" if any?

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Um....yeah.

I think i only have one. And by this I mean "chakra" in the sense of an energy center. if "chakra" means nerve center, then I probably have the standard H. sapien set. if Chakra means nerve center that is also and energy center...then...I think I just have one energy center.

it's a 'star" of silver light in my chest. the energy follows no channels, instead just effuses out in all directions. (tai chi was hard. I had to make it go down my arm instead of straight out my chest when doing that breathing stuff I told you about in that other section.....and no, I'm not very good at it and i have not been presented any reason to believe it has actual effect other than a vague sensation in my body)
2010-07-04 6:45
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Well technically the problem might lie in chakras being an etheric extension of the human physical body. The reason why people generally talk about charkas being an astral thing is a misunderstanding. Chakras, as most people understand them, are both astral and etheric "organs" (imagine it like multiple layers... heart on physical, heart chakra on etheric level and "core" or another "heart" chakra on astral). The problem rises when a non human spirit incarnates in a human body, mostly bacause the slowly forming chakric system on etheric layer doesnt match the astral one and then it is pretty much a matter of how strong the entity is and how invasive it´s energy is. The chakric system can get slightly "warped" because of this, but in most cases the standart otherkin line "My chakras are different!" comes from people looking and feeling their ASTRAL "chakras" (because they are used to look at their astral bodies... not the etheric ones)

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2010-07-04 18:54
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What's the difference between astral and etheric?
2010-07-04 20:12
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Acta non Verba Wrote:What's the difference between astral and etheric?

Etheric is the "layer" that connects astral and physical, it is the "middle layer".
2010-07-04 20:59
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I was just curious as to what you believed it was. i read up on both and i'm not sure if I see a profound difference in the two concepts.

However, as I believe we exist as three part beings, it does make me wonder. Mind, body and spirit. I think that perhaps I would equate mind with astral, though i am not sure.
2010-07-04 21:41
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Re: Chakra Theory
I do not ascribe to astra|-etheric stuff.

The astra|, etheric, and subt|e is a|| the same thing imo.

My chakra system differs a bit from the convensiona| mode| in a way that is the same as those other Rakshasa I've spoken to describe.
Mine does a|so have some of "persona|" differences (|ike everyone has), one that I have not heard anyone e|se mention before.

The reason I don't actua||y describe in detai| is because I've had someone "copypasta" some of my se|f-descriptions recent|y and it's rendered me disinc|ined to give peop|e more of my detai|s to do so with.

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2010-07-04 22:01
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I agree with Miniar on this, I believe the "subtle-body" is the same thing no matter where ya are energetically....spirits are on the same physical plan but on a different "frequency" hence why they can affect material objects....and heading to a different dimension or whatever doesn't change your etheric body..it just makes sense to me.

Elvanos: Are you saying that the chakra-system is part of actual human physiology and the subtle-body has(barring the instance of a single "Core") some rough equivalent in their energetic bodies? And while we're on the topic it seems like the core..the consciousness-principle of a spirit is sometimes just a single item..in other words they don't have a complex energy-body? Or they collapse or dissipate it? I wonder if perhaps for some, there is no subtle-body but their consciousness..i.e. a big ball of ether jammed in their skull(or otherwise).

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2010-07-04 22:29
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Varkadevi Wrote:Elvanos: Are you saying that the chakra-system is part of actual human physiology and the subtle-body has(barring the instance of a single "Core") some rough equivalent in their energetic bodies? And while we're on the topic it seems like the core..the consciousness-principle of a spirit is sometimes just a single item..in other words they don't have a complex energy-body? Or they collapse or dissipate it? I wonder if perhaps for some, there is no subtle-body but their consciousness..i.e. a big ball of ether jammed in their skull(or otherwise).

Oooh! A challenging question after a couple of months, I like that.

You missunderstood me there (probably because of my own crappy explanation). Lets start from the start, but lets also try to stay in the boundaries of topic aswell. Now, lets see, saying that charkas are a part of human physiology would be quite silly, becasue they are somewhat obviously not a part of the physical body. What I am saying is that chakras are "energy centers" that are located on the etheric part of your being. And then I am saying that you "real form" (AKA astral one) is on a different level.

And now for the "core"... I dont concider core to be "the consciousness-principle of a spirit", but more of an "main energy unit" for the entity. Self awareness and thoughts are about as much energy as they are biological reactions and electrical reactions in the brain, IHMO both of those things are just a way to get the thought to influence that particular "level". Of course you can disagree on this one with me, saying that thoughts are nothing more than illusion your brain is throwing at you and it is all part of some survival mechanism... that doesnt make much sense in a long run btw, but that is besides the point right now. But hey... lets not follow this train of thoughts, because it is hardly productive and a bit poinless.

Just let me say one thing, if you dont agree with me, then that is fine, but let me ask you a question: Have you ever tried to work with your astral and etheric body separatelly? (Just take it as a possibility that it might eventually exist and try it before discarding it for no obvious reason.)
2010-07-04 23:04
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I have no way of really distinguishing between the two at this time. Unless I feel it I don't think it's there.

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