Klandagi Wrote:Chordal Wrote:Hi Klandagi,
Welcome. I read this post a couple of days ago and have been thinking on what to say. I've also experienced shifts to different beings, but in my case I think it's related to energetic sensitivity -- that my psyche can at times become those who surround me (or step into me) incorporeally. I wanted to present this option, that maybe instead of this being linked to your own identity, perhaps you're picking up on beings who surround you. I'm not sure how much more I want to say at this point, but I have been thinking of this and wanted to communicate it while the concept was fresh. I haven't read again your intro this time, therefore, apologies if my hit is a bit off. <!-- s
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-- Chordal
Hi Chordal,
Thank you for sharing your perspective. <!-- s
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I'm curious to know more about your shifts. Do you have to be in close physical proximity to the being you are shifting into?
Physical proximity ...is kind of a separate thing than what I'm thinking of. I'm going to take the chance to trust you/the forum with this information, as I was pushed to weigh it before posting. With spirits, location is kind of tricky. To me, it's symbolic; physical location takes form as a metaphor for mental location, only, mental location is nonlinear.
TO EVERYONE: Pretty much everything in the below is Unsubstantiated Personal Gnosis, except for the fact that I've talked with a couple of other people who have experienced things the same way. That in no way makes it true, but it's strong enough of a hit to cause me to wonder about the veracity of my thought.
I have picked up on spirits who were physically near to me (for example, a plant in my care), and I have envisioned spirits or thoughtforms near me or approaching me, etc. But "location" in psychic terms -- at least in my terminology -- has to do with the "space" one is inhabiting. Basically there are different "places" one can go in one's mind which have to do with emotion, memory, feeling, what zone one is thinking within, etc. By "zone" I mean something like one's current paradigm and associated thoughts and feelings that occur at any one time while in that "space". For example, a religious paradigm may not always be held in the mind, however the mind can enter and exit religious states, during which insights within the terminology and worldview of that "space" can occur and may be applicable outside of the religious paradigm. That same insight might be difficult to approach without the assistance and (this-world and next-world) lexicon of the paradigm. (It tends to be the case, at least with me, that the next-world [energetic] lexicon is only built up through trial and error or vaguely similar meanings and metaphors handed down through culture, and/or cryptically hidden meanings within the teachings of those cultures...in some cases, literally like it's written in code.)
The mind -- as versus the brain (in this case, mind = process, brain = hardware) -- allows us to travel between different psychic "places"; what happens when I "channel" (in quotes because I'm probably using the term idiosyncratically) is that the mind (notice I did not say "my mind") steps into a certain space inhabited by a certain identity. Physical location is one thing; psychic location is another. Identity exists at certain locations or ranges within psychic space. My first spirit friend I knew by his energy signature, not by the way he looked or the fact that he would visit me in the same physical location at around the same time every night (now that I think of it, I was awfully easy to rendezvous...). I've spoken about this before with someone here; the kind of sense that one gets of the "taste" of a certain spirit; their vibratory "feel." That "feel," if one allows it to overtake oneself, is psychic location, where now the consciousness of the body is overlapped with the psychic location of a spirit, and for some time you are in sync, and the body's consciousness may think of itself as that spirit, without realizing the process of what could be happening -- or it could realize it and long, "this time," for it to be permanent (when by the nature of the beast, it is not). It's not quite the same thing as being possessed, because if one's skilled and wills to do so, one should be able to retain control over the actions of the physical body, and not give up control to the spirit at that psychic location. But you have to know first that your thoughts are not always you, and that in most cases you have a choice not to engage a hostile spirit.
I have no idea how I got into this deep enough to start talking about possession, but anyway...ultimately, the body is held responsible for the actions the body commits; the mind has the ability to move into and out of psychic states, and hence the potential to evade unnecessary conflicts. What one needs to know in order to stay safe, is that in a sense, one *is* the body, and so -- it is not entirely impossible, but only possible with a great deal of damage -- it is not a good option to attempt to escape any punishment that may be inflicted on the body because of the body's actions. It's better not to commit actions that will get one's body in trouble, if one can do this without violation to the self. This means not to let one's mind run rampant, enter and exit dangerous states for fun and/or attempt to avoid responsibility for actions committed while within those states. The spirits one overlaps with have an existence in a way separate from us; if we aren't vigilant and mindful of what we allow in, they can "joyride" our bodies and leave us hanging with the punishment without suffering it themselves. It's just self-preservationist to be careful.
I'm not a member of that New Age cult that just came to my mind now; it's just that I'm trying to explain this any way I can. That last paragraph was a disclaimer, by the way. <!-- s

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So regarding all of this...there is a question of which psychic location is "mine." "So I know how to be other people, but who am I and how do I be I?" seems to be the question. I'm still sussing this one out myself, though I'm getting closer to an answer, after a bit over a decade of trying. I think my spirits (the ones whose locations I overlap with) are trying to help me with this, too. I have a very strong tendency to be "fluid;" I'm now coming to a point of recognizing and attempting to embrace my gender fluidity, even though I think now that I'm coming at it from the opposite vector than I thought I was...and there are not words that I know of to name what I'm going through. The thing is that my fluidity isn't limited to gender, and I've heard now a number of times, from professionals, that I do not have DID. I think I may be energetically sensitive, and that this is what's going on with the changing states that I've experienced, and the seeming chaotic-ness that has been happening (up until relatively recently, I'd been assuming [or trying to] that everything that was happening in my mind was basically "me," which seems only true on the grand scale of things where all spirit is one Spirit...so we're all holy, we're all one, and we sub-differentiate based on our life experiences and what we do with said life experiences; at the same time, together we are the mind and body of Deity).
OK, craziness over for tonight? <!-- s

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--> In any case, I should get some sleep, but I wonder if any of this will help you?