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Addicted to cop shows
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Addicted to cop shows
And another OT post from me. Look at me, quite the little socialite!

So, is anyone here but me addicted to cop shows? Anything in particular, any thoughts on them?

Law & Order

The (almost) original and often the best. Brilliant at showing strong female characters, even more brilliant at showing strong older characters. Very brave in its willingness to change cast lineups. Very willing to show the less pleasant side of the criminal justice system and the moral dilemmas that can be almost impossible to reconcile. And possibly the best show on the planet for accurately portraying characters of a wide array of intelligence (from Jack McCoy and Adam Schiff, two of the smartest characters on TV, to Briscoe and Logan, hard working guys of average intellect, to the assorted idiots that pop up).

Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

One of the best team dynamic shows there is and one of the best at portraying the psychology behind the kind of people who would want to spend their days and nights chasing down scum. Massive kudos for making characters so completely believable and compelling despite showing almost nothing of their personal lives. The depiction of Benson and Stabler's changing mental habits over time is an absolute treat, with both of them dancing about an inch away from a nervous breakdown.

Law & Order: Criminal Intent

Heh heh, pure, silly fun. Unlike the rest of Law & Order it makes no attempt to make the investigations even remotely realistic . . . but unlike the rest of Law & Order it's a detective show, not a police procedural. Without Goren it's nothing (and yes, that says what I think of the "Team B" episodes!) and Goren can indeed be a deeply annoying character to watch . . . but because he is portrayed so consistently it just about works.

CSI

Great show! Totally lacking in any sense of realism of course (I would love someone to explain to me why the CSIs interview witnesses etc), but does great work at putting together puzzles.

CSI: Miami

Possibly the single least realistic cop show I have ever seen <!-- sTongue --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- sTongue --> Much like Criminal Intent, the only purpose of this show is for us to cheer at how clever the lead character is . . . except the lead character is even more annoying. It works, though, because it is internally consistent. Horatio knows everything and can do everything. Everything follows from that, there are no leaps. It also has a unique voice that makes it very watchable.

CSI: New York

I am yet to see a single episode of this show that consisted of anything other than the producers trying to convince me that I should care about Gary Sinese . . . and failing.

Criminal Minds

Possibly the best cop show on TV in the last ten years, if not ever. It goes out of its way to conform to actual procedural realism - but the research is so good that when things are inaccurate, it is almost always the result of a deliberate story choice (not bad research). Fantastic team dynamic in this show, with everyone completely believable as long term colleagues. And the best thing about it is it never, ever talks down to the viewers. Every single one of the main characters is written as being well above average in intelligence, amd convincingly so. Also gets big kudos for the variety of character types - especially good with middle aged men (who don't get to be popular heroes all that often). Extra marks as well for taking time to set it properly. This is the FBi, so they don't just wander in wherever they like . . . the issue of jurisdiction is relevant in every single case.

NCIS

This is the show that is trying to pretend to be Criminal Minds! I keep watching it and not being able to stand it, and watching it again just in case. I think every single character came from a Big Book of Cop Stereotypes, and on the whole they are completely unbelievable as professional members of the Navy. Dear oh dear.

Bones

Is this the worst cop show on TV? I tried to watch it the other night, and it seemed to consist entirely of very pretty people standing around trying to look pretty. No attempt to explain why this group of investigators (as opposed to regular cops) were involved. No attempt to ground the investigators within any kind of structure. Blatant stupidity on the part of every single character, who, despite allegedly being law enforcement professionals with experience and degrees, stuttered and stammered over every single "clue" that even the least observant person could have solved within seconds. At least one completely redundant character who added absolutely nothing to the progression of the story. And worst of all - the cardinal crime, inner character and opinions of the characters not being revealed by the choices they make during the investigation . . . but by fluff conversation unnecessary to the progression of the plot. Ban this filth!



I rarely watch British cop shows because the best ones tend to be made to a two hour (or longer) format, and consequently the writing is much less tight. American cop shows are almost always to an hour (or rather, 42 minutes) and as such they are forced to use every second (unless, of course, it's Bones). It's more interesting to watch a tightly written drama with some constraints.

The exception is some detective shows - notably the slightly silly Foyle's War and the incredibly silly Midsummer Murders - but the pleasure in them is from seeing the production team create a coherent world, not from the joy of seeing justice done (or not done).

Sooo . . . anyone else here a fan of cop shows? Anyone hate them? Anyone agree or disagree with my assessments? This is potentially vaguely kin related, in a butt-bruise kind of way, in that I'm a little interested to see how different types/alignments of people react to cop shows - if they like them, why, and which ones they like.

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CSI: My favorite cop show to like; the characters are very likable and believable.

CSI Miami: Dislike because the lead guy's a royal pain in the *insert explicitive* and doesn't seem approachable so I can't get into the show.

Law & Order: SVU: I get so wrapped up in it that I'll wind up making suggestions to the t.v. on what to do.

Moonlight: Because it has a vampire in it (though he doesn't act how I think a fictional vampire should act) I love it. I know, I know, it's not a reason to like a show...but I can't help it! I'm addicted to vampires.

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Television is something to do when there's nothing on the net. Which means that I'm not a big fan of cop shows. I don't dislike them exactly, just don't really care much about them.

About the only TV shows I try to watch are sci fi shows that have interesting characters. Even then, I often forget what time they're on and end up catching them on the net when I happen to remember. I like Battlestar Galactica, Dr. Who, Heroes, Eli Stone and True Blood. I used to love Farscape and Lexx.

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Like Motley, I never really go out of my way to watch tv. More often than not, I just get caught up in something that someone else happens to be watching. At my grandma's, at least, that means, yes, cop shows. I enjoy them, but I'm not addicted to them.

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Motley Wrote:About the only TV shows I try to watch are sci fi shows that have interesting characters. Even then, I often forget what time they're on and end up catching them on the net when I happen to remember. I like Battlestar Galactica, Dr. Who, Heroes, Eli Stone and True Blood. I used to love Farscape and Lexx.

Farscape for the win!!! I'm a fan of watching the Discovery Channel and not much else other than Netflix. And while I can respect the concept of the cop shows, like the originals like Law and Order, now there are way too many of them on TV for my tastes. They became like the bad reality shows of the 90's, too many of them with nothing original to offer. The first cop shows were good, but now that they're common, not so much in my opinion. Give me Dirty Jobs or Myth Busters any day!

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Only if Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex counts...

It has sufficient thought-provocation, yet also sufficient explosions and shooting, and occasional cuteness from the Tachikomas. You just can't beat cute minitanks.

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I don't watch tv much anymore, and when/if i do it's usually online (why should i change my schedule to catch a show i can watch whenever I'm good and ready to online?). But there are a few cop shows that i will set aside charts to stare at instead.

NCIS
sorry, archer. I'm one of those pain in the asses who keeps the ratings up so it can stay on the air every so often. I watch an episode when it's about, but otherwise i haven't followed it in order or seen too many.
I watch it for the charecters, mainly. Ducky and Abby along with the Israeli chick are my main draws to it. I don't know much about the specifics of crime scene investigation so to me i just get a kick out of those charecters and their antics throughout an episode.

Dexter
Can't help myself. this show just does such a great job of going from being cringe worthy, to downright hysterical, and at some points touching.

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Is Numbers still on anymore? I liked that one, my algebra teacher would play us a couple episodes during class every few weeks. Made a nice little break from studies.
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chaitea Wrote:I don't watch tv much anymore, and when/if i do it's usually online (why should i change my schedule to catch a show i can watch whenever I'm good and ready to online?).

That's why the Great Maker gave us Sky Plus! (Integrated digital satellite TV plus recorder)

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I have to ask: is anyone watching Law & Order UK? I haven't seen it yet, but may do so just cos whats-her-name from Dr. Who is in it.

I used to watch and love all of the CSI's except CSI NY, which struck me as a crappy version of Law & Order Criminal Intent. Otherwise...I recommend The Wire. It rules. Seriously.
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